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Peter Wagner Jr. Is New Baldwin H.S. Head Football Coach

School board chooses Wagner by a 6-3 vote after rejecting Seton-La Salle Coach Greg Perry, 5-4.

Peter Wagner Jr. is the newest head coach of the Baldwin High School football program, the Baldwin-Whitehall School Board decided by a 6-3 vote on Wednesday night.

Wagner, the dean of students at Baldwin High, has served as the assistant head coach and offensive coordinator for the high school's varsity team for the past two seasons. He has been an overall assistant in the program for the past four seasons.

School board member Tracy Macek motioned for Wagner to be the new head coach after board member George L. Pry's motion to hire Greg Perry failed by a 5-4 vote.

(Pry was acting on a recommendation made by B-W School District administration.)

Voting for Perry were Nancy Lee Crowder, Nancy Sciulli DiNardo, Pry and Martin Michael Schmotzer.

After the administration's recommendation failed, voting for Wagner were Larry Pantuso, Schmotzer, Ray Rosing, Macek, Diana Kazour and Kevin J. Fischer.

Perry was the head football coach at Seton-La Salle Catholic High School in Mt. Lebanon from 2005 to 2012. He led Seton-La Salle to seven playoffs appearances in his eight seasons there while compiling a 65-21 overall record in the WPIAL's AA, or second-lowest, classification.

Baldwin competes in the highest, or AAAA, classification. Over the same eight years while Perry was leading Seton, Baldwin went 19-56 and made the playoffs twice.

Wagner takes over at Baldwin for his former boss—Jim Wehner, who resigned from the Baldwin head coaching job in January after four seasons and a 12-25 overall record.

Wagner will officially step into his new role on July 1 at a salary of $11,476 per year. Wehner's head coaching salary at Baldwin was $11,035 per year.

Wagner does not have head coaching experience, which a supporter of Perry's—Whitehall Borough resident Gary Kelly of Windvale Drive—pointed out during public comments time at Wednesday night's board meeting.

In fact, Kelly brought with him to the meeting an extracurricular job posting issued by the Baldwin-Whitehall School District Office that calls for the new head coach to have a "minimum 5 years head football coaching experience at the varsity high school or the collegiate levels, proven track record as a head football coach and strong leadership qualities."

Kelly said that he has three sons who all went through the Seton-La Salle football program.

"I am embarrassed to be a member and a taxpayer of this community," Kelly said after seeing the Perry motion fail. "The action that you took tonight is not only wrong, but I think it's possibly illegal. You published a job posting that very specifically says 'required' a minimum of five years.

"I would ask that you reconsider the action because I really do think there's a potential that you exposed this district to a lawsuit."

Asked to give his legal opinion, district solicitor Ed Lawrence said, "I can't imagine that it's illegal for this board to have taken the action it took. I can't promise you some court couldn't.

"I think it's the board's prerogative to hire whoever they want."

Despite the listed requirements, Wagner was still interviewed for the head coaching job.

Schmotzer said that the school board did not direct who to interview or who not to interview and that it did not write the job posting that Kelly was referring to.

"If you've got a complaint," Schmotzer said, "address it to administration, not to the board."

Kelly was reached for additional comment after the meeting.

"This ends up being like theater," Kelly said, "because you publish something with absolutely no intention of following through on the rules that you established.

"What they did tonight was shameful."

Rosing said that he voted for Wagner because he likes to see the head coaching job staying in-house.

"He's worked with the kids. He knows the kids," Rosing said. "Everyone who's ever gotten a job somewhere, someone has given them a chance."

Pry said that Wagner's lack of experience prompted his "no" vote for him.

Read through other Baldwin-Whitehall School Board items here.

And check back with the Baldwin-Whitehall Patch for more news from Wednesday night's school board meeting.

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cc February 17, 2013 at 03:35 PM
Purple must be smoking to much wacky tobacco to make a statement that Perry is less qualified. He has a proven track record, being a dean of sports doesn't give you a track record and that position cost money to our Technology Dept when they hired our Dean of Sports.
timetocare February 17, 2013 at 04:20 PM
who are the other coaches the kids know allready and alot of them have been told where they will start this year so good luck
HB February 17, 2013 at 06:33 PM
John you are you thick? Can you not see the correlation? Experience does not necessarily mean wins especially with a coach like perry who has been at one place his entire career. Please give me the list of teams he out coached at sls? He was able to recruit kids away from Lebo bp and USC to help fill his all star team and still never won a championship. So tell me who did sls beat and who did he out coach during his tenure that had better talent? What connections does he have? What great coaches did he defeat? I'm pretty sure the top coaches in the wpial in terms of wins reside in aaaa. Lets face it people maybe just maybe bald wins talent isn't that good...they've won one playoff game many years ago and haven't been much of a factor in a decade...maybe there are some good kids but maybe just maybe the parents do not let the kids have success because the parents fill the kids heads with negativity and self-centered thoughts.
Jim P February 17, 2013 at 06:48 PM
HB, Is there something wrong with you? or do you just like to post whatever pops in your tiny head.... Perry started at South Fayette 12 years ago....MORON... he was an O coordinator before he became head coach and also helped develop more than a handful of very talented QB's, and when you have a great program you DONT have to recruit thats where talented kids want to go...MORON!!!!
cc February 17, 2013 at 07:03 PM
I heard that Perry also turned down CV because he was going to Baldwin. Where Perry ends up they will have a winning football team. Baldwin will be on the bottom again because politics was more important then hiring the right man for the job and it wasn't Wagner
HB February 17, 2013 at 09:53 PM
Was south Fayette a juggernaut 12 years ago? I never said he wasn't an oc but developing stull and gradkowski? C'mon man even you and you're extensive use of the word moron could coach draw up plays for those two. Perry wants to leave SLS because the well has run dry and people are no longer willing to spend te money and you are also a fool to think they don't recruit. I have been told by more than one of their supporters that's what they do is to go and recruit kids to play there especially the ones who won't make the cut at USC bp or Lebo. You still have not told me who he has out coached and I'm quite sure that bp USC and Lebo are better programs than seton. Did you have a point to your post by the way?
John February 18, 2013 at 02:26 PM
While Jim P seemed to hit the nail on the head, let me embarrass you even further. I have been involved with the WPIAL for a long time and I know my facts. Perry was the OC & QB coach for those two young men and taught them well. The well is not running dry at Seton as they are coming off a WPIAL Quarter Finals season, and returning 12 letterman (NO more dumb posts HB). You may have a point - enrollment has dropped by 18 students since 2008 (sarcasm – BW enrollment has dropped even more). The recruiting comment is unfounded, the WPIAL and PIAA investigate any claims of recruiting and Seton has not once been investigated for football (PLEASE no more unfounded claims HB – you are making yourself look bad). To say they recruit kids from Lebo or USC is false, students go to Seton because of religious beliefs, tradition, and quality of education. They reason they may be “better” programs is a direct result of money and a great tax base.
John February 18, 2013 at 02:27 PM
Perry has beaten great coaches from programs such as Aliquippa – Zmarjiak, South Fayette – Rossi and South Park – Coughlan, all won WPIAL Championships (HB – you posts are just ridiculous – but maybe you are related to Peter). In addition, on the way to Conference Championships many good coaches and teams were beaten. As far as tops teams and coaches in terms of wins, you must be a profound idiot not to notice Clairton (Nola) and their 60 game winning streak and five consecutive WPIAL championships. To make you seem even more ignorant I will mention Bishop Canevin (Jacoby) and Blackhawk (Hamilton) as great coaches at the A, AA, and AAA levels win more wins than anyone in AAAA, minus USC (Render) and North Hills (McCurry).
John February 18, 2013 at 02:27 PM
HB – You are just wasting my time and I will no longer read your posts. In fact, I will not be on Patch again until the season and then my points will have been made for me. I hope by then you will have become more knowledgeable about WPIAL football and think more about the accuracy and quality of your posts.
HB February 18, 2013 at 04:24 PM
When has perry as a hc beat aliquippa? Never. He has never beat South Park when they have been good, he has never beat a team he shouldn't. Sls and pcc both recruit there is no doubt about that and the Piaa will never stop it so it gets ignored. Perry has never coached against Nola...or Hamilton....or jacoby, and he lost to aliquippa..Rossi is not at the great level quite yet and when tommy has a good team he out coaches perry up and down the field. Did you forget walker, Novak...sls conference is a joke...the whole idea that you think perry is this great world changing coaches is ludicrous. A good coach yes but great give me a break. Will Wagner be good only time will tell but the problems at Baldwin run much deeper than a coach.
Robert Edward Healy, III February 18, 2013 at 07:05 PM
"New Coach Wagner Optimistic for Baldwin Football": http://patch.com/A-2b7F
Tim February 18, 2013 at 08:51 PM
Please HB, you are an idiot. This is from Pittsburgh Tribune Review. "Perry is 60-20 in eight seasons at Seton-La Salle, where he also was the offensive coordinator for 10 seasons prior. The Rebels have won six conference titles and two WPIAL championships during his tenure." But I guess you will still say Perry is not a good coach despite these facts. HB you like to make excuses - Seton recruits, Its a weak conference, teams beat were weak. All you do is make excuses not even a good argument. You really just sound like an idiot. Read more: http://triblive.com/sports/hssports/football/3480843-74/coach-baldwin-football#ixzz2LHlUVLL3 Follow us: @triblive on Twitter | triblive on Facebook
HB February 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM
As a head coach when did he win a wpial championship? He's a good coach no question but he us not thus great football coach that you people have made him out to be. The fact is the conference is weak and the fact is since cerro left seton hasn't won a championship or been to one!! I would even bet the next seton coach will do the same unless its coach veto or rutter(great men not very good coaches)
Tim February 19, 2013 at 01:34 AM
I guess the Pittsburgh Tribune Review staff writers are wrong and you are right. They must be terrible at there job, maybe you should go to work there since you apparently know the facts better than them. Send them an email and ask them why they printed Perry won a two WPIAL Championships. I left you the link. Again with the excuses...weak conference. I guess it has been weak for 6 straight years and all those coaches are terrible. Pat Monroe at South Allegheny who won WPIAL Championship at Duquense, Ed Dalton at McGuffey who also won a WPIAL Championship, Tom Loughran at South Park who won a WPIAL Championship. Real terrible conference. HB please shut up.
HB February 19, 2013 at 02:24 AM
Dalton never won a wpial title perry never won a wpial title what has pat Monroe done since he left Duquesne. And when South Park and seton have equal talent South Park always wins. Tim please send me a link where perry won a wpial championship. I'm quite certain that gattuso and cerro are the only coaches who have won a title at sls.
HB February 19, 2013 at 02:35 AM
2005 lost to gcc in semis with d-1 qb and receiver also lost to South Park 2006 lost to Brentwood in 2nd round 2007 lost to Jeannette first round 2008 lost to center first round 2009 didn't make playoffs 2010 lost to ford city in 2nd round 2011 lost to Jeannette in 3rd round 2012 lost to wash hi in 2nd round Those are the past eight seasons for sls, so yes I am smarter than the trib writers. He is not a bad coach but he is not a render a walker or even a methany. All who have won wpial titles and beat teams they are not supposed to. Baldwin will remain the same until the kids believe in the coach and ignore mom and dads negativity.
Thomas Crane February 19, 2013 at 03:06 PM
First I am cancelling my subscription to the Tribune Review. lol. Next, HB you kind of validated Tim's point by posting what looks to be a very impressive coaching resume. If Perry did all of what you posted. How do you think Baldwin will fare against these coaches with Wagner who has no resume or accomplishments such as the ones on Perry you provided? Could you also please post the teams Perry beat in the play offs while at Seton? There had to be some good coaches/teams beaten to make it to all those play off games. Last, you seem to be degrading coaches who have really worked hard and done some good things for their football programs, as well as the players on those teams who worked hard those years. That is immature and unfair to those coaches and players.
HB February 19, 2013 at 03:21 PM
I'm not degrading anyone the point I am trying to make is that Wagner just might be able to turn it around. Some people on this believe that perry is this wizard of coaching and should be thruster onto the mantle of greatness. He is a good coach and has done some good things with usually superior talent, but to suggest he is the only answer at baldwin is a bit of an overstatement. Baldwin NEEDS a coach in the building. So, if this was their only way to do that then Wagner is the best choice. There are very few public school teams who have success if the coach is not in the building. At the aaaa level it is nearly impossible unless you have a lot of quality assistants in the building. I do not think coach perry would be able to create the atmosphere that baldwin needs to have success as a guy who doesn't work in the building. Sls has won a championship under each head coach except perry veto and rutter, so even in his own program perry has underachieved. Good coach but not the exalted one.
BW ALUM February 19, 2013 at 03:38 PM
Coach Wagner may indeed become an accomplished head coach. The difference is Coach Perry already is one. now we can argue all day as to what the measure of "accomplished" or "successful" is. But I think it is at least fair to say that by most standards used to measure success at the high school level i.e. winning %, players advancing to the collegiate level, program enrollment, consistency, Greg has acheived these benchmarks. Has he won a WPIAL championship as a head coach...no. Has he been a part of a staff that has...yes. Again, Peter Wagner may indeed pan out to be a great hire but I think what has a percentage of the community upset is the process more than the actual decision. there was only a small window for applicants, there was no external posting, and the hired candidate actually did not meet the requirements of the posting. Again, the process seemed a bit flawed, lets just hope that it works out and we're not having this conversation again in 4 years.
Angel Joseph February 19, 2013 at 03:47 PM
Wagner is our coach Perry is not!!! Now could those of you who are still griping about this please move on. Coach Wagner has had at least two meetings with our kids and they are working their butts off in the weight room. There are more kids showing up than before at this time in the year. They respect Coach Wagner and they are gonna work very hard to prove you people wrong. Tim- that's great that you think Perry is GOD. You have made your case, some agree and some do not. Get over it.
timetocare February 19, 2013 at 09:37 PM
Well said
Purple February 20, 2013 at 03:50 AM
The shocking thing here to me is that people think Baldwin actually has the talent to compete with the top of AAAA. Never have, never will. We could be better than we have been, but Yannessa maxed us out pretty much. His problem was when he finally established some very good teams they put him in the toughest conference in the entire state.
PITT#983 February 20, 2013 at 06:19 AM
Angel you are right on point!
Angel Joseph February 20, 2013 at 06:07 PM
Purple - you just sound silly.
frank February 21, 2013 at 03:24 PM
Who ran cerro's team?? it wasn't cerro, it was the offensive coordinator and everyone knew that, players, coaches, parents!
HB February 21, 2013 at 04:40 PM
Frank you can't be serious? Lou Cerro runs his team now and he ran it then. Mountour ans seton run the same offensive schemes...to suggest differently is insane
frank February 21, 2013 at 06:49 PM
your not worth my time HB, your delusional!
tylerlee February 22, 2013 at 03:10 PM
HB; The o coordinator for montour worked under perry at seton and played for perry at seton please stop your nonfactual bullcrap
tylerlee February 22, 2013 at 03:24 PM
you are a joke, i'd like to know who you are, sounds like HATE to me, Perry is a very good coach, he is in contact with many colleges to get kids scholarships, on this fact alone Baldwin missed the boat, shame on your school board for the injustice against your kids, your administration and your community
tylerlee February 22, 2013 at 03:30 PM
do you have any idea how many of the QB,S on these teams alone are worked out by Perry, not to mention at the A, AAA, AND AAAA levels, please do some research before you make these idiotic statements

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