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REVISED: New Teachers Contract in Baldwin-Whitehall?

And other important notes from an Aug. 8 school board meeting.

REVISED: Memorandums of Understanding Approved

The Baldwin-Whitehall School Board and the Baldwin-Whitehall Education Association (teachers union) agreed to memorandums of understanding (MOUs) on Wednesday night as the next step toward a new labor contract.

Specifics regarding the MOUs were not made available to the general public, but the board approved them by an 8-0 vote. (Board member Nancy Lee Crowder was absent.)

REVISION (Aug. 10, 1:30 p.m.): The MOUs approved on Wednesday are revisions to a current contract with the teachers union and are not officially part of any possible new contract.

Deasy Returns

Virginia Deasy, once the 's director of pupil services, has been recalled from a furlough to fill a vacant special education teaching position in the district.

Deasy was when her former position was eliminated to help balance B-W's 2012-13 budget.

She will earn $51,931 per year in her new position, as decided by the school board by a 7-1 vote. Board member Nancy Sciulli DiNardo cast the lone "no" vote.

School Lunch Prices Increase

As expected, the school board approved a 10-cent price increase for school lunches at both the district's elementary and secondary levels.

The vote was 8-0.

Read more about the cost increase .

The Online Academy Coming

Also as expected, the board approved a contract with The Online Academy for use of its software program aimed at instructing the district's alternative education students.

The vote was 7-1. Sciulli DiNardo voted "no."

Read more about the software program .

New Process for Student Board Reps?

The school board is considering a revision to its policy that determines how student board representatives come to be.

At a later date, the board will vote whether or not to accept the following revision:

"Beginning with the 2013-14 school year, new student representatives will be selected through a grade level election process. Once elected, a student representative's term will continue until high school graduation, unless the representative is removed for cause."

The district's current policy calls for student board reps to be nominated by district administration.

Read about the board debate leading to this proposed revision .

New Extracurricular Eligibility Policies Passed in Baldwin-Whitehall

Read .

Workers' Compensation Changes Likely for B-W School District

Read .

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cc August 12, 2012 at 06:53 PM
Tom agree unions don't tell employees anything and I am in total agreement with you.
cc August 12, 2012 at 07:13 PM
teachers don't pay that much towards their pension. It is the citizens of Pennsylvania that are paying over 97% of their outrageous pensions. They should also get their pensions at a retirement age 65. This would be a big saving on the Tax Payer.
cc August 12, 2012 at 07:15 PM
Tom so true. You understand how Unions work and how they hid things from their members.
cc August 12, 2012 at 07:21 PM
I just love how people copy off of a search and paste the information on here and then try to take credit for writing it when it comes word for work off a web site as what ml is quoting. is This is from Dictionary.com "pla·gia·rize   [pley-juh-rahyz, -jee-uh-rahyz] Show IPA verb, pla·gia·rized, pla·gia·riz·ing. verb (used with object) 1. to take and use by plagiarism. 2. to take and use ideas, passages, etc., from (another's work) by plagiarism." http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plagiarizer
cc August 12, 2012 at 07:23 PM
you mean where you plagiarized what you copied and pasted word for word and then passed it off at your own writing.
cc August 12, 2012 at 08:06 PM
teachers pay 5.5 to 6.5 percent of their pensions in Pennsylvania. Teachers pay $5 for a single person, $10 per family toward medical insurance per year.
cc August 12, 2012 at 09:18 PM
If you go into http://www.familywatchdog.us Family Watchdog or http://www.pameganslaw.state.pa.us/SearchResults.aspx State Police and put in the zip codes of 15226, 15227, 15236 or 15234 you can find all the Sex Offenders in our School District. Most people don't know if a sex offender is living next to them as they have never looked.
cc August 14, 2012 at 01:06 AM
I like to know how many people never sat down with their children and didn't do homework with them. Other that the foreigners that can't read or understand English I bet there isn't that many. My child said last year out of the 8 teachers that they had only 3 actually taught and the rest were lousy. Tenor needs to go and teachers need to be held accountable. I also want to congratulate Peters, Bethel Park, Mt Lebo, Upper St Clair, West Allegheny on their exceptional school district for their PSSA scores for the 2011-2012 school year. These schools really know how to teach their students and our School Board and Administration need to go over to these schools and talk to them about what they are doing right.
cc August 14, 2012 at 01:17 AM
By the way South Carolina is a Right To Work state and the base pay for a teacher in 2011 was $47,421. Maybe they should make Pennsylvania a Right To Work State, then maybe Baldwin School District would fire the horrible teachers that they have and bring in Decent Teachers. I know my nephew was so glad to get away from Baldwin School District and is teaching in one of the Better Schools where he is more Appreciated and has a chance of Going further in his Career since he does hold a PHD in Elementary Education and is still in College furthering his Education, not because he has to, but because he wants too.
cc August 14, 2012 at 01:29 AM
Billie how many Bad Apples do Baldwin have in the school district? Unions have nothing to do with teaching. Twice a year every Student should be given a survey on how the teacher is teaching, what improvements can be made, are you learning in class. Sure your going to get a few that will write down no to everything but most children will tell the truth and then the school board and administration can take this information and try to improve on teaching methods. I know two of the top 10 schools in Allegheny County use this as a tool and teachers complained that it wasn't going to work but in essence it did work. Our students are bright, we just need teachers that can teach.
Billee August 14, 2012 at 02:40 AM
"25 people with no manners, bad hygiene,smart mouths and pain in the butt (lack of help from) parents." Is it any wonder why some parents don't want certain teachers with these types of qualities and submit letters of suggestion for reconsideration of academic placement. No wonder parental involvement is weak...my point is there are no bad apples (children) just a bunch of adolescents in training to learn and acquire age appropriate social teaching and grace in addition to academics. Take a good look in the mirror! I know it's not easy however you were young once yourself... can anyone say tolerance?
Billee August 14, 2012 at 02:46 AM
Unions are part of the structure and process of teaching in teaming with our administration, teachers and school board.
Tom Barchfeld August 14, 2012 at 10:29 AM
ML, you must be a lying Democrat.
Robert Edward Healy, III August 14, 2012 at 01:03 PM
ML, are you referring to the "lying Democrat" comment? While, of course, not all Democrats (or Republicans) are liars, it would be a stretch, in my opinion, to justify removing such a remark.
cc August 14, 2012 at 03:11 PM
It is also tenure that lowers the standards of the education that our children are receiving. Once a teacher has tenure it is very hard to fire them unless a school is cutting classes and departments like the Technology Dept. I know in construction when they work on outages they put NO STRIKE clauses into the contracts between the Unions and Employer. Same should be done with Teachers Contracts, NO STRIKING at all or your job is done with. Tenure needs to go because once a teacher has tenure then were stuck with teachers becoming lax and not doing their jobs and it is our students that suffer, the school district suffers and people pull their students and put them in charter schools or just move out of the area. Teachers should be accessed every year and if they aren't doing their job then hire someone that wants to teach our students.
cc August 14, 2012 at 04:12 PM
Maybe they should teach Hygiene in Health Class as they did years ago. Now they teach about Sex and Sexually Transmitted Diseases, CPR, Drug and Healthy Living (Food and Exercising). Some of the ESL students came from countries that didn't have water like what we do in the United States and baths were rare. These students need to be taught Hygiene and Heath Class should be teaching this. Have you ever stood in line behind a family of ESL, and you have to leave the line because they don't know about Hygiene. Parents are our children first teachers and it it the parents that should teach their children manners from a early age and how to respect others Students, Adults and Teachers. Back in the day if you disrespected a teacher you were sent to the office and had to stay after school for detention and they called the parents. Maybe Baldwin Whitehall School District needs to do the same now. We also have teacher at Baldwin with no respect for students and I told all of my children that is the teacher disrespects you then get up and walk down to the office and report the teacher. Our Students deserve as much respect as they should be giving the teachers.
cc August 14, 2012 at 04:16 PM
Then don't refer to it as all Unions say it is your union, as all unions work differently.
cc August 14, 2012 at 04:27 PM
Here are the 2011-2012 Rankings of School in Unions and Right to Work States. Unions do not bring down Rankings nor does "Actually, the states that have unions show higher test results than the so called "right to work" states." 1. Vermont Union 2 Connecticut Union 3. Massachusetts Union 4. New Jersey Union 5. Maine Union 6. Minnesota Union 7. Virginia Right to Work 8. Wisconsin Union 9. Montana Union 10. New York Union 11. Pennsylvania Union 12. Nebraska Right to Work 13. Kansas Right to Work 14. Iowa Right to Work 15. New Hampshire Union 16. Rhode Island Union 17. Wyoming Right to Work 18. South Dakota Right to Work 19. Maryland Union 20. North Dakota Right to Work (Continue)
cc August 14, 2012 at 04:27 PM
21. Missouri Union 22. North Carolina Right to Work 23. Colorado Union 24. Texas Right to Work 25. Delaware Union 26. Indiana Right to Work 27. Michigan Union 28. Idaho Right to Work 29. South Carolina Right to Work 30. Washington Union 31. Ohio Union 32. Illinois Union 33. Utah Right to Work 34. West Virginia Union 35. Kentucky Union 36. Florida Right to Work 37. Arkansas Right to Work 38. Oregon Union 39. Oklahoma Right to Work 40. Georgia Right to Work 41. Tennessee Right to Work 42. Hawaii Union 43. Alabama Right to Work 44. Alaska Union 45. Louisiana Right to Work 46. California Union 47. Nevada Right to Work 48. New Mexico Union 49. Mississippi Right to Work 50. Arizona Right to Work
BW Taxpayer September 07, 2012 at 02:25 AM
Actually the teacher's unions are not organized like the steelworkers. They are actually professional organizations. These associations were established to ensure that teachers received fair treatment and were not victims to the whims of school board members (who didn't like a teacher's religion) or administrators with relatives to hire. These associations assured that classrooms were safe for all (including students). They still provide for practices that allow an environment where both teachers and students are able to strive for success (like limiting class size according to child development). Yes, the associations do negotiate contracts that include a salary scale and health benefits, however, teachers do realize the state of the economy and are not trying to bleed the district dry. Believe it or not, quite a few of us live here! It is my tax money, also, Just to clarify for Mr. Barchfeld-there are no "Union bosses" in our BW schools who push for votes for either party. I have never been approached by any union member or officer in my 20 year career (in 3 DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS) and told to vote for Democrats! Many of the problems that are recurrent themes in this blog are actually governed by school law-tenure being one. School administrators used to have the first 2 years of a teacher's career to remove an incompetent teacher. I believe it is now 3 years. Within that time, administrators can easily remove that teacher- which I have NEVER seen occur!
BW Taxpayer September 07, 2012 at 02:47 AM
First, it seems to be that this blog is a location for the SAME people to make the SAME comments-even if the topic starts as a result of the article it just seems to dissolve into unfounded attacks on teachers and insults to those bloggers who do not agree in lockstep with their opinion. Every time I look at this blog- i remember why I rarely visit this site. By the way, those who criticize other bloggers lack of quotes or footnotes should begin to check their spelling, grammar and actual meaning of assessed vs accessed. Also, you might want to check the ranking of South Carolina schools-usually in the bottom 3 in the United States and their salary scale-top of the scale in some counties is only $55,000.
NE12Ukid September 07, 2012 at 03:55 AM
I thought he said it was about BW's teacher union, not his or yours.
NE12Ukid September 07, 2012 at 03:57 AM
cc, what does that long list have to do with test scores? And what is your source for that list, you didn't plagerize it, did you? Pot, kettle, eh cc?
Robert Edward Healy, III September 07, 2012 at 04:04 AM
A point of clarification. I realize that this is just semantics to some people, but the B-W Patch is not a blog. We host some blogs in our "Local Voices" section, but we're a news source. Not all news websites are blogs. Not a big deal, but I wanted to point it out.
NE12Ukid September 07, 2012 at 04:04 AM
Looks to me like tom Barchfeld is the one lying, regardless of political affilation or lack thereof but calling someone else a liar, because I checked out the other data and it's true. Good to know that ad hominem attacks are considered good postings on Patch even though I think they should not be. I can think of a few good ones for a few other commenters.
NE12Ukid September 07, 2012 at 04:20 AM
ML 8:43 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012 Actually, the states that have unions show higher test results than the so called "right to work" states. `````````````````````````````` Interesting assertion. Seems to be true. NAEP site has the data, Average 2009 NAEP Score Grouped By State Teacher Contract Laws States with binding teacher contracts 4th grade: Math 240.0 Reading 220.7 8th grade: Math 282.1 Reading 263.7 States without binding teacher contracts 4th grade: Math 237.7 Reading 217.5 8th grade: Math 281.2 Reading 259.5 5 states ban teachers unions ie do not allow collective bargaining for educators. Their rank on combined SAT and ACT are SouthCarolina – 50th North Carolina – 49th Georgia – 48th Texas – 47th Virginia – 44th Yes, interesting.
Tom Barchfeld September 07, 2012 at 07:49 AM
Tell me what my lie was.
Tom Barchfeld September 07, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Again, tell me what my lie was?
Robert Edward Healy, III September 07, 2012 at 12:55 PM
No problem, ML. It's semantics I know, but I wanted to clarify that. Not all news websites are blogs. In fact, some would argue that blogs aren't really news since most blogs are rooted in personal opinion. Our stories (maybe 95 percent of them) are not.
Matt A. September 07, 2012 at 02:13 PM
Tom you should know by now that ml is wrong on everything and always calls others liars when you don't agree with her.

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