150 New Apartments Possibly Coming to Route 51 Vacant Lot

The lot is found near the Route 51 cloverleaf in south Baldwin.

Representatives of the AR Building Company are expected to seek preliminary approval soon from the Baldwin Borough Council regarding the development of three 50-unit apartments buildings on a vacant lot near the Route 51 cloverleaf, Baldwin engineer Larry Souleret said on Wednesday.

If and when given final approval by the Baldwin Council—and once built—the buildings would sit on a roughly 3.5-acre property in south Baldwin.

The property, according to the Allegheny County Assessment Web page, is owned by Nello Fiore of Whitehall Borough, and is located just north of the Baldwin-Pleasant Hills Borough border.

The Baldwin Council discussed the project during an agenda meeting on Tuesday night. Councilman John Conley, the chair of the borough's Zoning & Planning Committee, said at that meeting that the developers are aiming for the buildings to be four stories high.

Conley expressed concern over how traffic will increase if the buildings are opened.

"This will put a little more pressure on that narrow road where the railroad goes over top and there's one lane (Grace Street)," he said.

Grace Street is attached to Bliss Drive, which runs adjacent to the planned site.

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LongtimeBaldwinResident December 12, 2012 at 10:17 PM
There are too many apartment buildings (with too many problems) in Baldwin/Whitehall already. Give us a break already!
Cathy December 12, 2012 at 10:50 PM
Would they set up another police substation there? Like at the knolls, green meadows, or whatever they call it now. Just because you change the name of an apartment complex doesn't make it better. Still high crime! Lol. This is a joke! If you read the police logs in the local papers, the majority of crime is in these lovely apartment complexes. How about some luxury elderly apartments?
Watcher December 13, 2012 at 12:40 AM
Companies dont get no easy government section 8 dollars for luxury elderly apartments, thats why.
Debbie December 13, 2012 at 05:53 AM
I have lived at the Cloverleaf Towers Apartments for 20 years and I love it. It is a nice and well kept safe neighborhood with good mgmt. It is right on Rt. 51 which is great because I ride the bus. Not all apartment complexed are slums, run by slum lords with high crime. I totally disagree with the former remarks. Also, just because a person gets a Section 8 voucher does not mean they are a criminal.
cc December 13, 2012 at 01:22 PM
AR Building doesn't take in rift raft, they tend to have very expensive apartments complexes in other communities and take care of their apartments complexes. If they keep with what they have in other communities then it would be good for the community.
cc December 13, 2012 at 01:24 PM
Debbie have to agree with you. Many elderly and disabled people get Section 8 and are not criminals. Some of them only live off of 800 a month and without Section 8, they would be living in the street.
bigolebear December 14, 2012 at 03:29 AM
cc is right, these are not like regular project sites, 3 story walkups. they are proposing 4 story buildings with a pool
cc December 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM
This is AR Buildings web site http://arbuilding.com/arbuilding/ If you go look at some of the places they rent they aren't shabby. http://arbuilding.com/arbuilding/springhouse.html http://arbuilding.com/arbuilding/parkside.html http://arbuilding.com/arbuilding/hawthorne.html
NB resident December 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Ihope they let this go up, it has been vacant land for years, and this will add some tax base to the borough, at a time when we could use it
cc December 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM
NB resident I have to agree with you, the place has been over grown with weeds and looks like an eyesore.
NE12Ukid December 14, 2012 at 01:10 PM
I hope Baldwin has gotten over their disagreements with AR. New construction is a good thing for the economy.
bigolebear December 14, 2012 at 01:46 PM
If it gets thru the Planning Commission, I dont see why Council wouldnt approve it. updated Plans from AR probably will be seen at the feb Planning Commission hearing. So till then not much will be done.
LongtimeBaldwinResident December 14, 2012 at 03:11 PM
50 apartments per bldg...150 residences on 3 acres. That's doesn't sound like a "luxury" setting.
bigolebear December 14, 2012 at 03:14 PM
you have to look at the plans before you can make a statement like that longtime.
NE12Ukid December 14, 2012 at 10:50 PM
Just saying, Baldwin has fought AR before.
Jim December 15, 2012 at 02:09 PM
I really hope Baldwin government has enough brains to write something into an approval that the complex can never get section 8 approval. Everyone argues the only section 8 they take now at the hole next door is elderly. If a landlord is section 8 approved they can not pick and choose. All who apply can get in. The landlord can not discriminate. Who would want to rent a high end place that is next to a railroad track, and an apartment complex like whatever it is called now, that needs a police substation. Once they build it and can not rent because of those issues they will just start renting to anyone.
Watcher December 15, 2012 at 02:26 PM
3 50 unit buildings on 3 acres, next to A railroad track, next to what is esentially a ghetto apartment complex that overlooks A clover interchange. You are probaly better off leaving it greenspace.
Robert Edward Healy, III December 19, 2012 at 07:22 AM
Route 51 Apartments Update: http://patch.com/A-01sY.
LeonA December 19, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Jim9:09 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012 I really hope Baldwin government has enough brains to write something into an approval that the complex can never get section 8 approval. Everyone argues the only section 8 they take now at the hole next door is elderly. If a landlord is section 8 approved they can not pick and choose. All who apply can get in.>>> Jim, if I recall correctly the other place no longer takes ANY section 8, the reference to elderly there being on Section 8 is to people who have already lived there before this changed. They are not throwing out the elderly residents who are on Sec. 8, but they are not accepting ANY new secl8 residents.
Robert Edward Healy, III July 18, 2013 at 02:18 AM
UPDATE: http://baldwin-whitehall.patch.com/groups/business-news/p/large-apartment-complex-given-approvalwith-conditionsin-baldwin-borough.


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