Sorry, but this is a HUGE mistake! Talk about a handout??? Pete has never called an offensive play in the past 4 years, what he did do in that time was undercut Wehner (not defending Wehner) so that he could set himself up for this position. What a travesty! Baldwin will get destroyed by much, much more competent coaches in this section. Brace yourself for reality Coach Wagner, your about to get schooled. Nepotism is not considered a qualification to be a head football coach, maybe a dean of students. I see maybe two wins, depending on who ends up coaching Canon Mac and Plum. It sure seems like the school is not too sure either with only 6 votes, not a lot of confidence there.

shame shame shame

Prepare for another 3-4 years of losing. This is a giant mistake. Nothing else to say.

How can people vote yes for both candidates? You either wanted Perry or not. politics are a joke.

Good luck to Wagner and his staff. Hopefully he can turn things around and can get some old coaches back that will get the kids excited to play football and know the game.

Him being in the building had to help his cause.

This was a sham from the very beginning when the job was "posted" internally yet somehow Perry was a candidate. Greg Perry was not internal, only Wagner and Voelker. The job was NEVER posted anywhere else, not on the school website, not on the WPIAL website, not in the papers, not even the patch. The school board was not even sold on either hire. I have never seen anything like this before. McKessport hires George SMith unanimously, Deer Lakes T.J. Wiley unanimously, East Allegheny hires Dominic Pecora unanimously, I bet you hear Pat Carey North Hills unanimously and Eric Kasperowicz Pine Richland unanimously in the near future. Are you sure you want this job Coach Wagner? It seems like there a lot of respect for you here as a coach. You may be in over your head.

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Updates added.

More quotes added.

Why was my post deleted?

I like Rosing's thoughts as well as Pry. Wonder if Marty was playing both sides of the fence as usual.

My son and his teammates were very excited tonight. Good luck coach!

what did bP say???

Please do not make accusations without proof.

Baldwin is like the Pittsburgh Pirates of High School Football. A total joke and laughing stock.

Why bother leaving comments?????

Folks, you may opine on the merits of the candidates, but you cannot suggest ulterior motives for hiring one candidate over the other without proof.

Despite what most people here are saying, he is our coach and I hope he does well and connects with the students and makes Baldwin a better program for all of our kids. What about the other positions in the district. I thought they said all positions were open.

Two things are PATHETIC here. This hiring. And the fact that you can't say anything controversial about anything in Baldwin. PATHETIC. There seems to be more posts removed here than there actually are. What's that tell you?

Bring in Dave Wannstedt.

Pathetic

for all you football parents who think there kids are going somewhere fast in this sport from baldwin. you just missed any opportunity by not having perry coach your kids. so you might start repeating after me and telling tell them it doesnt matter if you win or lose as long as you had fun.

Good luck to the Boys and the new Coach.

That said, what an embarassment. At this point do you think any prospective coach will consider coming to Baldwin if they are going to be denied by the Board? If you vote no on a recommendation from people you have hired to find the best candidate then you've given them a no confidence vote. I hope all the no votes have the courage to give public, well thought out reasons they did not support the recommended candidate.

Bob, maybe you should start by interviewing the school board member that works for the county , and just ask him if he was ever influenced on his vote,... Now that's interesting! LEAVE THIS POST!!!

I can tell you that ALL of the football players that I have talked to Like Wagner, and respect him. That is more than I can say for Wehner. Give the guy a chance. For the past four years these kids were lied to, cheated out of positions because of who's parents were up Wehner's butt, and the proper attention was not given to those who needed it. I can only hope that Wagner will do it right this time and maybe you all will be pleasantly surprised. So with that being said, GOOD LUCK BALDWIN HIGHLANDERS AND COACH WAGNER!

Just because of Wagner's last name people will assume these poor thoughts. Fact of the matter is we are taking a chance on a guy who stuck by our kids, not only when Jim Wehner resigned, but also when Pallante resigned. This was the second time he was there for our children. As a parent I can only speak about what I see personally, and what my kids and their friends say. I can tell you without certainty that Coach Wagner is highly respected, willing to have an open door with players and parents, and is getting our kids excited about bringing a winning program back to Baldwin.

One last thing, last year when my son was considering quitting football, I contacted Mr. Wagner discretely, and asked him to talk with my son. After a few weeks, my son was not only excited about football, he more confident and a better student! For all of you who says coaches and sports don't matter, you are wrong!

Good luck Mr. Wagner and the Fighting Highlanders! Prove your naysayers wrong!

Whiteheads,
Clearly there will be people with vomit in their mouths this morning due to the resent appointment of the new head coach. I for one will give this man the benefit of the doubt until he proves himself otherwise.

We all asked for change and we received it! By the grace of Vince Sortino’s scrunched up “V” formation shorts, we received it!

Let’s all rejoice in the fact that this head coach is undefeated in his quest to win 1 game as a head coach.

Before we baptize him by proverbial fire, we must need to asses if this loin is in fact cut from the same cow buttocks as our last head coach.

Whiteheads – 2
Brentwood – 0.5

So let me get this straight....Administration perfroms interviews, they decide on Greg Perry, a man with vast head coaching experience and a winning record, great resume, a role model for many young men. The administration then proposes the name to the school board for hire an dthen the school board neglects all the interview information, ignores the resume of a proven leader and winner, and makes their own hire?? This is how it works?? I don't have anything against Wagner, except his lack of experience, game plannng and play calling, but heh, he will lend a shoulder for the kids to cry on when they lose. Greg Perry has all the cerednetials except being a friend to the kids?? Last time I checked that doesn't win games or build a program. This is all about politics. Congrats Baldwin. You really missed an opportunity to get a great coach. The WPIAL is laugh and the conference is licking their chops. You shall reap your rewards in the fall!

AH it he 2....that's 2 candidates that actually got 3 interviews were NOT in house ....Nick Kamberis also got 3 interviews...hence...they were both more qualified!!!! IDIOT!!!

AH it he 2....that's 2 candidates that actually got 3 interviews were NOT in house ....Nick Kamberis also got 3 interviews...hence...they were both more qualified!!!! IDIOT!!!

Very interesting. I heard from what I deem a reliable source, Perry and the Humbert guy from Ringold were the 2 finalists that both met with the Superintendent. Perry getting the nod from the AD, or that's what was supposed to happen. I dont know much about Wagner, wish him luck, but what is the purpose of the administrators and the interview process?? School board democracy, gotta love it.....

BHS Grad Well, we now know which 5 board members are for politics over thinking, clarity, legal decisions, open processes and hiring qualified & proven staff. Remember next election cycle to put away your rubber stamp.

Good Luck to the Fighting Highlanders!

Here are more notes from last night's school board meeting: http://patch.com/A-1VNT.

This is just typical politics playing the bigger role, and I'm sure Baldwins football team will pay the price In the end, which is so sad. The school board really should have taken the suggestion of the AD and superintendent and hired the guy with the most qualifications ...Perry

B-W Board member Kevin J. Fischer said that he was surprised that no one in the audience at Wednesday's board meeting spoke up about the two B-W schools that failed to make AYP.

"What's interesting is, tonight, we had three Keystone achievements out of five schools, and yet, the comments gear toward the football coach," Fischer said.

"Football's king in western Pennsylvania; we know that. But I often wonder, if we were sitting in Mt. Lebanon, North Allegheny, Quaker Valley, if there wouldn't have been a hoo and a hah from the audience because the high school—the marquee school to any school district—did not make what I consider to be a minimum—AYP.

"I'm gonna bet that (residents of those other school districts) would have been there clamoring to their board of education, to their superintendent, to the assistant superintendent, to everybody that is associated with the school district, that somebody needs to be responsible for that lack of achievement.

"Yet, tonight, the audience of Baldwin-Whitehall was quiet."

Agreed! Let's get our priorities straight!!

Rather than criticizing the audience perhaps Mr. Fisher and the Board should be critical of themselves over AYP. As they are fond of pointing out they hired the people and approved the direction and resources.

It seems that the circus we call board meetings distracts us from what's really important.

Lisa, although I strongly agree with you, there is one flaw in that method of thinking and Mr. Fischer's statement. Of the school districts that Mr. Fischer mentioned two of the three have perrenial powerhouse athletics in the WPIAL's highest classification in most if not all sports year in and year out, so those parents can complain about not meeting AYP and many of the academic problems of the district, but in Baldwin-Whitehall there is really nothing but failure and apathy. This is a sad day because the district can't attract anyone that can turn the entire athletic program around.

WE SHOULD LET OUR DISTRICT HIRE THE NEXT POPE WE WOULD END UP WITH BOZO THE CLOWN

Doesn't matter as far as I'm concerned. I don't know the politics or anything so I'll stick with the resumes. Perry is a guy who took over a program with immense benefits from Baldwin. It acquired a QB in Bill Stull when he realized he was not going to beat out incumbent Andy Goff at Mt. Lebanon. It was a program well established by Lou Cerro. It drew from parts of the city and even without recruiting them, the parents were sending them to Seton over Brasher or Carrick regardless. It also was in Double A in a conference that lacked depth through much of his tenure, though admittedly has been much stronger of late. Perry has never rebuilt a thing. He has if anything slightly fallen off from the glory days of Lou Cerro at Seton.

Pallente and Wehner both undertook rebuilding jobs before coming here and both succeeded. Pallante made the final four in Ohio with a relatively average program historically. I think instead of criticizing a guy like Wehner who took Yough to legitimacy after they were in even worse shape than Baldwin. It's time to look at ourselves and wonder why the program can't turn around even under guys who have done so at other places before coming.

Is it the parents and the school board? Is it the demographics? Is it the competition in our own conference? I think all three are partially to blame. I think Wagner is a risk worth taking. Maybe he is the next Jim Render or Mike Methany or NBill Cherpak who built their respective programs in the south hills.

Purple, I like your thoughts.

I think Wagner will give it his all and have heard of some people who he will be hiring on his staff and think that he deserves a chance.

I agree with AH! and Wagner is not qualified at all for a head coaching job, he doesn't have nearly the qualifications as mr.perry has! all Wagner has is his daddy and politics and I don't think that's going to help him have a winning season, Baldwin is in for a rude awakening!

Perry is less qualified than the previous two coaches. It's not even arguable. The parents and impatient administration led both guys to quit. No coach is winning here if they're run out in three years. We need a guy to be guaranteed 8+ years to sufficiently turn this mess around. Consistency is more important that experience at this point IMO.

How did the board know he was in the running? I heard he only had one interview 3 weeks ago, isn't it illegal for administrators to approach board members?

I had originally thought that had 2 or 3 interviews like Perry.

I want to root for Wagner, but not if it's a political move.

And I'm not saying Wagner is the guy I want either. I'm not sure who I want. I'm just a fan who goes to a few games a year. What I want is a guy that's guaranteed 8-10 years before he is questioned because there isn't a coach attainable that turns this around in three years. A lot of you guys are too close to the situation to admit this.

Wagner is all politics! no qualifications!

Did anyone bring up the question of the 5 years head coaching requirement in the posting when wagners name was brought to a vote last night?

fyi. I see two Frank's on this patch. so don't get confused people. Mine is a capital F.

This is a nightmare. Wagner is a political hire, how else do you explain him getting the job when the administration nominated Greg Perry. This needs to be looked into. No way Wagner is more qualified than Perry. Wagner has NO game planning experience, NO play calling experience, NO experience with recruiting or college contacts, NO experience with any of the responsibilities a head coach will face and now he is running a AAAA program, but he does have expereince with politics obviously and that will benefit him when we are losing......he will keep his job. ALso, I disagree about Wehner tryning around any program, he had a losing record at Avonworth, 0-9 his last season, same at Yough, where he under achieved. I also think a coach only needs 4 years to make a program his ow, the time it takes for freshman to become seniors, a coach should be able to put their mark on a program. I also think it is obscene that the posting wasn't followed, seems a bit more than suspect, but when you play the politics game, this is what you get. Say what you want about Greg Perry and the Seton program, but he was established and respected among his peers. I can hear the WPIAL coaches laughing now at Baldwin. Perry's resume speaks for itself, regardless of who he followed, Perry is a proven leader and winner.

Tim- your comments are completely unfounded. You are just angry that they did not hire your outsider that has no experience of building a program, only being handed a program. Our team is truly excited for the chance to play for Coach Wagner. He is committed to our boys, and we need to commit our support to him.

A reminder, folks: Please do not post statements as truths without proof.

Do you have PROOF that the statements being made are not true???

Bernie and frank, please email me at robert.healyiii@patch.com with your information please.

I can say this, as someone who has followed the BHS program closely for 25 plus years one thing is definitely true... The turnover in leadership in the football program has to be contributing to the problem. Like him or hate him, when Yanessa was the head coach there was consistency. consistency in asstistants, in expectations, in overall program operation. While I believe change is necessary at times, constant change makes it difficult for a program to be successful. Look at the most successful programs in the WPIAL at any level and you will see for the most part consistency at the top. Also for better or worse Yanessa being the A.D. was the unquestioned leader of the athletic program and would never compromise to the school boards demands if he found them unreasonable. He told them the way it was...like I said like him or hate him a lot of these problems did not exist when he was there. they need strong consistent leadership and a shared vision by all stakeholders, parents, players, coaches, and administration

All this could be easily researched Bob, if you interview the school board members, AD,and superintendent, they could all shine a light on the TRUTH...5. Years head coaching experience required ... 2 qualified candidates were given 3 interviews, Peter got 1...Perry was given the nod from the superintendent and the AD and then Peter was named the coach that IS the situation in a nutshell...I smell POLITICS and who in Pittsburgh is more political than the WAGNERS... I say foul!

Very well said Sergio- I can't believe people are still being negative on here. Was Mr. Wagner interviewed? I'm sure he would have been. Once interviewed ( knowing his qualifications or lack of) doesn't that give the School Board the right to vote him in regardless of anything else. How about the many times the school board voted a coach in not knowing anything about them other than what the AD tells them " he wants"? How many times has a former Baldwin Grad applied for a teaching job and our school board hires someone from another district saying they are more qualified ( right out of college)? More qualified? That means you are admitting that our kids are not taught properly.There are more important things to waste your brains on in this community. Leave Mr. Wagner take the reigns. He's young enough and smart enough to build this program. I understand that the last coach didn't do a good job and a monkey could have done better so give the poor guy a chance... If you people gave this much attention and concern to our youth and their school work, everyone would be better off.

The job qualifications were 5 years head coaching experience ... On that fact alone Mr. Wagner was not given even a 2nd interview, what happened after that? POLITICS at its finest! Good luck to the Baldwin Football program....you will need all the luck you can get!!! What a shame!

Wagner may get by Plum (depending on who gets that job) then maybe Canon Mac and (depending on who get that job) Fox Chapel, but only because Baldwin has better athletes, not because of coach. And lets wait and see who these schools hire, I bet the most qualified applicate. I hope it is Perry so he get show Baldwin the msitake they made. Wagner will be exposed once hit hits Murders Row, Penn Hills, Mount Lebo, USC, Woodland Hills, all these coaches will destroy young Pete. He will not be able to out game plan these coaches. He does not have any experience doing so. Just wait and see.

I was speaking with some other Atheltic Directors at a BB game this week and they were all LAUGHING about this hire. Neither could believe it. Greg Perry was a clear favorite meeting all qualifications. They even heard Tim O'Malley (Directior of WPIAL) was ridiculing the choice, maybe they can form an inquiry into this joke. No way this hire makes sense or wins. HUGE FAIL!

John your comments are unfair. Shame on you because you do not know him. Our kids, and parents know him and respect him. When every coach was running away he has stuck by us knowing all the problems. Finally we have a coach that is strong, and will stand up for our kids when the going gets tough. This community needs to get behind our kids, the school board did the right thing for our kids and time will prove that.

I heard today that the administration is upset over what the board did.

I also heard that the players were excited and that the varsity coaching staff should be set within two weeks and that two coaches who the players really liked will be returning.

Give Mr Wagner a chance to get his program together. He does not need the assistance of the youth football coaches. This is AAAA football not little league. Keep the parents out of the locker room and off of the field. Let the young men grow as a team without parental interference. It is the coaches responsibility to teach the players on the field and build the district football program. It is the parents responsibility to support the coaches. Let's get behind the coaches.

The only thing I agree with you is about the parents and "little league" coaches keeping their business out of it. But as far as your NEPOTISM coach (who has less head coach experience than most of the LL coaches, he is NOT qualified. There are rumors flying around about a possible law suit over this atrocity. You people that allow this kind of thing to happen and these fools {Rosing etc) makes it seem almost communist.

Players are excited because they do not have to "Re-prove" themselves to a coach they've already played under.

Kids are excited because they have a coach that is a friend instead of a head coach and role model. Ask yourself this...what are the kids going to learn??....that it doesn't matter if you work hard or are qualified....it's all who you know. Great lesson to learn (sarcasm). As far as "re-prove" themselves, the cream will always rise to the top.

John you just seem bitter that Perry did not get the job. Wasnt Wagner at Seton with him??Why didnt Perry get hired at Chartiers if he is that good. It is obvious that there are three types of people on this site 1- People that are terribly upset Perry did not get hired 2 - People that just hate the political names 3- People that actually know this individual for what he is worth and know he is going to win despite all odds for our kids.
Either way the school board did the right thing by not hiring another coach that is looking for a stepping stone. I have heard nothing but good things about this person, and our kids say the same. Someone made a point how driven he is despite all the critics, I find that interesting because he has something to prove rather than wanting something like the other coaches that were looking into our world not knowing what it is really like. I think this board knew something most of us do not, and anyway who really would take a recommendation from Sortino? Where has that got us?

Wow

Kids dont have to prove themselves says thomas sounds like alot of losing to me just everybody remember this at election time you people complain they did wrong but you voted them in office

sbaldwin if you weren't so stupid and had your facts straight you would know that perry turned down the cv job! you people that don't have your facts straight need to just stop talking cause you sound stupid!

WHat makes you people think that coach perry is or would be the answer to your prayers? How many programs has he turned around? Has he coaches anywhere but seton lasalle? Lets face it he was able to recruit kids to play for him at seton, and he never won a championship....cerro won not perry...all perry has, is being a head coach at a AA school for the past decade. How do you know Wagner won't succeed...bill cowher was only a special teams coordinator, tomlin only a coordinator and when chip Kelly took over at oregan he was never a head coach...plus I am pretty sure coaches are not the ones tackling throwing running or catching, so no matter how badly you parents and community members want to blame the coaches your boys decide who wins or loses a lot more than the coaches

Purple said: We need a guy to be guaranteed 8+ years to sufficiently turn this mess around. Consistency is more important that experience at this point IMO.

Sergio said: I can say this, as someone who has followed the BHS program closely for 25 plus years one thing is definitely true... The turnover in leadership in the football program has to be contributing to the problem

THAT makes sense, Purple AND Sergio. Such impatience gets a program nowhere.
Ned

I disagree. I think 4 years is the standard, enough time to get community in same page. More importantly, a coach will have the kids from freshman to seniors, that is enough time to instill a philosophy. The guy that took over for Wehner (Kekseo) took the 0-9 team he was left and had them 9-0 in 4 years, Bosnic at Wash High had his team to Heinz in year 2, Lyons from Central Valley to a brand new team to Heinz in his 2nd year, and Piccini at Peters took his team to the play offs in his first year as did Rich Bowen at Hempfield and Guy Contil did it at Butler in his 3rd year. Baldwin has much more talent then any of these AAAA schools and should be there in less then 4 years if Wagner has any coaching ability.

Perry had the CV job but pulled his name because he did not want it.. all of you people need to get your facts straight before you make your idiotic statements.. And with Perry's qualifications he can get a job anywhere, as long as politics aren't involved!!

who are the other coaches the kids know allready and alot of them have been told where they will start this year so good luck

John you are you thick? Can you not see the correlation? Experience does not necessarily mean wins especially with a coach like perry who has been at one place his entire career. Please give me the list of teams he out coached at sls? He was able to recruit kids away from Lebo bp and USC to help fill his all star team and still never won a championship. So tell me who did sls beat and who did he out coach during his tenure that had better talent? What connections does he have? What great coaches did he defeat? I'm pretty sure the top coaches in the wpial in terms of wins reside in aaaa. Lets face it people maybe just maybe bald wins talent isn't that good...they've won one playoff game many years ago and haven't been much of a factor in a decade...maybe there are some good kids but maybe just maybe the parents do not let the kids have success because the parents fill the kids heads with negativity and self-centered thoughts.

HB, Is there something wrong with you? or do you just like to post whatever pops in your tiny head.... Perry started at South Fayette 12 years ago....MORON... he was an O coordinator before he became head coach and also helped develop more than a handful of very talented QB's, and when you have a great program you DONT have to recruit thats where talented kids want to go...MORON!!!!

Was south Fayette a juggernaut 12 years ago? I never said he wasn't an oc but developing stull and gradkowski? C'mon man even you and you're extensive use of the word moron could coach draw up plays for those two. Perry wants to leave SLS because the well has run dry and people are no longer willing to spend te money and you are also a fool to think they don't recruit. I have been told by more than one of their supporters that's what they do is to go and recruit kids to play there especially the ones who won't make the cut at USC bp or Lebo. You still have not told me who he has out coached and I'm quite sure that bp USC and Lebo are better programs than seton. Did you have a point to your post by the way?

While Jim P seemed to hit the nail on the head, let me embarrass you even further. I have been involved with the WPIAL for a long time and I know my facts. Perry was the OC & QB coach for those two young men and taught them well. The well is not running dry at Seton as they are coming off a WPIAL Quarter Finals season, and returning 12 letterman (NO more dumb posts HB). You may have a point - enrollment has dropped by 18 students since 2008 (sarcasm – BW enrollment has dropped even more). The recruiting comment is unfounded, the WPIAL and PIAA investigate any claims of recruiting and Seton has not once been investigated for football (PLEASE no more unfounded claims HB – you are making yourself look bad). To say they recruit kids from Lebo or USC is false, students go to Seton because of religious beliefs, tradition, and quality of education. They reason they may be “better” programs is a direct result of money and a great tax base.

Perry has beaten great coaches from programs such as Aliquippa – Zmarjiak, South Fayette – Rossi and South Park – Coughlan, all won WPIAL Championships (HB – you posts are just ridiculous – but maybe you are related to Peter). In addition, on the way to Conference Championships many good coaches and teams were beaten. As far as tops teams and coaches in terms of wins, you must be a profound idiot not to notice Clairton (Nola) and their 60 game winning streak and five consecutive WPIAL championships. To make you seem even more ignorant I will mention Bishop Canevin (Jacoby) and Blackhawk (Hamilton) as great coaches at the A, AA, and AAA levels win more wins than anyone in AAAA, minus USC (Render) and North Hills (McCurry).

HB – You are just wasting my time and I will no longer read your posts. In fact, I will not be on Patch again until the season and then my points will have been made for me. I hope by then you will have become more knowledgeable about WPIAL football and think more about the accuracy and quality of your posts.

When has perry as a hc beat aliquippa? Never. He has never beat South Park when they have been good, he has never beat a team he shouldn't. Sls and pcc both recruit there is no doubt about that and the Piaa will never stop it so it gets ignored. Perry has never coached against Nola...or Hamilton....or jacoby, and he lost to aliquippa..Rossi is not at the great level quite yet and when tommy has a good team he out coaches perry up and down the field. Did you forget walker, Novak...sls conference is a joke...the whole idea that you think perry is this great world changing coaches is ludicrous. A good coach yes but great give me a break. Will Wagner be good only time will tell but the problems at Baldwin run much deeper than a coach.

"New Coach Wagner Optimistic for Baldwin Football": http://patch.com/A-2b7F

Please HB, you are an idiot. This is from Pittsburgh Tribune Review.

"Perry is 60-20 in eight seasons at Seton-La Salle, where he also was the offensive coordinator for 10 seasons prior. The Rebels have won six conference titles and two WPIAL championships during his tenure."

But I guess you will still say Perry is not a good coach despite these facts. HB you like to make excuses - Seton recruits, Its a weak conference, teams beat were weak. All you do is make excuses not even a good argument. You really just sound like an idiot.

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As a head coach when did he win a wpial championship? He's a good coach no question but he us not thus great football coach that you people have made him out to be. The fact is the conference is weak and the fact is since cerro left seton hasn't won a championship or been to one!! I would even bet the next seton coach will do the same unless its coach veto or rutter(great men not very good coaches)

Dalton never won a wpial title perry never won a wpial title what has pat Monroe done since he left Duquesne. And when South Park and seton have equal talent South Park always wins. Tim please send me a link where perry won a wpial championship. I'm quite certain that gattuso and cerro are the only coaches who have won a title at sls.

2005 lost to gcc in semis with d-1 qb and receiver also lost to South Park
2006 lost to Brentwood in 2nd round
2007 lost to Jeannette first round
2008 lost to center first round
2009 didn't make playoffs
2010 lost to ford city in 2nd round
2011 lost to Jeannette in 3rd round
2012 lost to wash hi in 2nd round

Those are the past eight seasons for sls, so yes I am smarter than the trib writers. He is not a bad coach but he is not a render a walker or even a methany. All who have won wpial titles and beat teams they are not supposed to. Baldwin will remain the same until the kids believe in the coach and ignore mom and dads negativity.

First I am cancelling my subscription to the Tribune Review. lol.

Next, HB you kind of validated Tim's point by posting what looks to be a very impressive coaching resume. If Perry did all of what you posted. How do you think Baldwin will fare against these coaches with Wagner who has no resume or accomplishments such as the ones on Perry you provided?

Could you also please post the teams Perry beat in the play offs while at Seton? There had to be some good coaches/teams beaten to make it to all those play off games.

Last, you seem to be degrading coaches who have really worked hard and done some good things for their football programs, as well as the players on those teams who worked hard those years. That is immature and unfair to those coaches and players.

I'm not degrading anyone the point I am trying to make is that Wagner just might be able to turn it around. Some people on this believe that perry is this wizard of coaching and should be thruster onto the mantle of greatness. He is a good coach and has done some good things with usually superior talent, but to suggest he is the only answer at baldwin is a bit of an overstatement. Baldwin NEEDS a coach in the building. So, if this was their only way to do that then Wagner is the best choice. There are very few public school teams who have success if the coach is not in the building. At the aaaa level it is nearly impossible unless you have a lot of quality assistants in the building. I do not think coach perry would be able to create the atmosphere that baldwin needs to have success as a guy who doesn't work in the building. Sls has won a championship under each head coach except perry veto and rutter, so even in his own program perry has underachieved. Good coach but not the exalted one.

Coach Wagner may indeed become an accomplished head coach. The difference is Coach Perry already is one. now we can argue all day as to what the measure of "accomplished" or "successful" is. But I think it is at least fair to say that by most standards used to measure success at the high school level i.e. winning %, players advancing to the collegiate level, program enrollment, consistency, Greg has acheived these benchmarks. Has he won a WPIAL championship as a head coach...no. Has he been a part of a staff that has...yes. Again, Peter Wagner may indeed pan out to be a great hire but I think what has a percentage of the community upset is the process more than the actual decision. there was only a small window for applicants, there was no external posting, and the hired candidate actually did not meet the requirements of the posting. Again, the process seemed a bit flawed, lets just hope that it works out and we're not having this conversation again in 4 years.

Wagner is our coach Perry is not!!! Now could those of you who are still griping about this please move on. Coach Wagner has had at least two meetings with our kids and they are working their butts off in the weight room. There are more kids showing up than before at this time in the year. They respect Coach Wagner and they are gonna work very hard to prove you people wrong. Tim- that's great that you think Perry is GOD. You have made your case, some agree and some do not. Get over it.

Well said

The shocking thing here to me is that people think Baldwin actually has the talent to compete with the top of AAAA. Never have, never will. We could be better than we have been, but Yannessa maxed us out pretty much. His problem was when he finally established some very good teams they put him in the toughest conference in the entire state.

Purple - you just sound silly.

Who ran cerro's team?? it wasn't cerro, it was the offensive coordinator and everyone knew that, players, coaches, parents!

Frank you can't be serious? Lou Cerro runs his team now and he ran it then. Mountour ans seton run the same offensive schemes...to suggest differently is insane

your not worth my time HB, your delusional!

HB; The o coordinator for montour worked under perry at seton and played for perry at seton please stop your nonfactual bullcrap