More Details Available of Mt. Lebanon-Baldwin Twp. Athletics Complex
'McNeilly Park' may cause traffic and crime concerns for Baldwin residents.
Although Mt. Lebanon's newly planned and approximately 23-acre-large "McNeilly Park" athletics complex will include "less than probably even a quarter of an acre" of Baldwin Township land—according to Mt. Lebanon's Municipal Planner Keith McGill—some Baldwin Township officials and other area municipal leaders have still expressed concern over how the park will affect non-Mt. Lebanonites.
Baldwin Township, as well as Dormont Borough and Pittsburgh's Brookline neighborhood, will closely or directly border the new complex, which will consist of soccer and baseball fields and will sit on now-wooded Mt. Lebanon property between Queensboro Avenue and McNeilly Road.
The biggest concerns, at least for Baldwin Township engineer Glenn Jonnet, will be increased noise, lighting and traffic, as well as potential issues with municipal utility pipes and a Pittsburgh Water & Sewer Authority overflow chamber that surrounding municipalities share and that will exist beneath the new complex.
"They're going to be up against the residences," Jonnet said after a Baldwin Township Board of Commissioners meeting on Oct. 4. "Those nice woods that have been calm for 30 years now will have kids right there playing soccer, yelling and screaming. And you'll have lights at night."
Mt. Lebanon officials are considering establishing an entrance roadway to the proposed complex at or near the intersection of McNeilly and Pearce roads. Pearce leads into Baldwin Township's parts of Pearce and Dewalt Drive soon after that intersection, meaning increased traffic for Baldwin Township residents, as well.
"There's a lot of activity that goes on there (the McNeilly-Pearce intersection)," Jonnet said. "You've got gas stations and other commercial property (surrounding it). And residential (nearby)."
While structures and activities on the grounds of the proposed athletics complex will have to comply with Mt. Lebanon's municipal code, Baldwin Township officials will have little control of the complex despite its proximity to their constituents, especially those along Hill Street and Highridge Drive.
"We have our ordinances, and they have their ordinances," Jonnet said. "They have to abide by their ordinances; they don't have to abide by ours."
As for community safety, Baldwin Township police Chief Terrence P. O'Brien was interviewed by the Mt. Lebanon Police Department for that department's Oct. 6 report to the Mt. Lebanon commission.
"In regard to potential problems at the McNeilly fields," the report reads, "Chief O'Brien noted that we (Mt. Lebanon police) would be likely to see thefts from vehicles in the parking lots, criminal mischief to buildings, vending machines, and of course, graffiti."
O'Brien also echoed Jonnet's concerns over traffic.
"(O'Brien) related that he often fields citizen complaints in regard to access to McNeilly Road during the morning rush hour; motorists are unable to merge onto McNeilly Road from Pierce (sic), directly across from the proposed development," the Oct. 6 report reads. "Chief O'Brien also indicated that the afternoon rush hour (2 to 6 p.m.) involves fairly heavy traffic along McNeilly Road, including school bus traffic, and that after school athletic events could increase backlogs along McNeilly as parents, students and spectators attempt to cross traffic to enter the field complex."
Keystone Oaks Middle and High School, and Seton La-Salle Catholic High School, both sit along McNeilly Road in Mt. Lebanon.
Lieutenant Joe Tersak, the officer in charge of the traffic unit for the Pittsburgh Bureau of Police Zone 6, which has jurisdiction over Brookline, was also referenced in the Oct. 6 report.
"From the traffic perspective," the report reads, "Lt. Tersak expressed his opinion that (Mt. Lebanon municipal) planners should pay particular attention to ensuring there will be an adequate number of parking spots within the complex to avoid issues arising from overflow parking onto the McNeilly roadway. Lt. Tersak also noted that many potential issues were dependent upon who would be permitted to use the fields; certain high school rivalries, for example, might necessitate additional police officers' presence to deter any potential fights or disorder."
While any activity that occurs at McNeilly Park would be under the jurisdiction of Mt. Lebanon police, police from Pittsburgh, Baldwin Township or Dormont could be called on to help.
"In regard to the authority of the Baldwin, Dormont or City of Pittsburgh (or any other municipal police agency) police to come to the aid or assistance of the Mt. Lebanon Police Department at McNeilly Road or any other location, the MLPD need only request that assistance," the Oct. 6 report reads. " ... In fact, in the absence of such a request, the Municipal Police Jurisdiction Act also grants jurisdiction if an officer from an 'outside' agency has probable cause to believe another 'officer is in need of aid or assistance.'"
Included in the Oct. 6 report is a Sept. 22 letter from Mt. Lebanon police officer Scott M. Kunz to Mt. Lebanon police Chief Coleman J. McDonough that echoes the possibility of other municipalities' police departments entering McNeilly Park.
"There will be an increase in the (police) calls for service at the proposed McNeilly Road park," Kunz's letter reads, "because at this time, the facility does not exist. However, I do not anticipate that number to be significant. I believe these calls will include criminal mischief (to the pavilions, dugouts, concession stand, etc.), theft (from vehicles in the parking lot, concession stand, vending machines), ordinance violations (alcohol in the park, being in the park after hours), disturbance/noise complaints, public drunkenness, disorderly conduct/fighting and the use and sale of drugs. I also see the potential for other activities to occur because of the seclusion of the park such as sexual activities, underage drinking and drug use.
"Another concern is the location of the park. The park will be located on the far edge of town which will mean an increase in response times. This may cause us to have to rely on the Dormont and Baldwin Township police departments for quick assistance."
Keystone Oaks High Principal Scott Hagy and Seton-La Salle President Gary Rodgers were both interviewed for the Oct. 6 report, but neither had concerns over the proposed McNeilly Park.
"Mr. Hagy expressed no concerns in regard to criminal activities or traffic at the proposed McNeilly fields development," the report reads. "Gary Rodgers indicated that since most activities at the fields would occur after school, on weekends or during the summer months, he did not anticipate any traffic problems affecting the school. Mr. Rodgers viewed the proposed development as a 'positive for the community.' He did not see any reason for concern in regard to increased criminal activity."
Under a 2002 Mutual Aid Agreement that includes Mt. Lebanon, Dormont and Baldwin Township, among others, the financial expenses incurred by a police department while helping another police department are the responsibilty of that helping department only. In other words, Baldwin Township or Dormont police would not, under normal circumstances, be reimbursed by Mt. Lebanon police if they were called on to help Mt. Lebanon. Pittsburgh Police are not included in that agreement, though.
Check back with the Baldwin-Whitehall Patch for updates on McNeilly Park.
Bob Downey
1:06 pm on Wednesday, October 19, 2011
There has to be much more input from the citizen's of Baldwin Township, since this propsed athletic facility will have a tremendous impact on our residents and the residents of Brookline and will have very little impact Mount Lebanon residents. This project will place athletic fields within 120 feet of residents back yards and will disrupt their privacy and the semi-seclusion that they have enjoyed for decades. This issue will have a financial impact on our residents. With the complex less than one-half mile from our municipal building, our police will most assuredly be the first responders to arrive once an emergency call is placed. It is doubtful that Mt. Lebanon can have a consistent response of less than 5 minutes, so it will cost our citizens patrol time from our streets. Another area that will be impacted is the storm-water run-off to the McNeilly corridor. McNeilly has been the location of several floods over the years. Once this facility is paved and has a road that leads directly to McNeilly, the water run-off will cause even more headaches for our township, the residents, and the businesses in our community. Their proposal has the fields adding almost 30 feet of fill on top of the existing sewar lines with insuffient funding. In the event of a failure or damage to the line, it will cost our residents significant funding when the need arises and most assuredly will require a tax increase. This adversely affects the citizens of Baldwin Township and will cost us money!
Robert Edward Healy, III
3:42 pm on Wednesday, October 19, 2011
Thanks for the comments, Bob. For readers: Bob Downey is a Baldwin Township commissioner.
Steve Laskovich
11:54 pm on Monday, October 24, 2011
Being a resident of McNeilly road, I am definately concerned with the fact that there will be additional water run-off from this project directed to the lower portion of McNeilly Road. While all involved believe it seems to be a good idea for enjoyment of others, I personally do not believe it's a very sound idea to have this fun at the expense of the residents and their increased burden of costs associated to FEMA requiremnents for insurance. Please bear in mind that while you would qualify for the FEMA insurance, it does not come at a cheap price. Also, please note that there would be a safety oriented factor to the residents that live directly on McNeilly Road due to the fact of the increased increased traffic & probable accidents would occur on a more frequent basis to the residents while slowing down to pull into their driveways. Ask the fine police officers that patrol this road. They see many issues with speeders that occur now. Thank you, resident of McNeilly Road.
Jean Smith
11:16 pm on Sunday, October 30, 2011
If Mt Lebanon wants to open this park then they should should take all responsibility for the park, including have police at the park 24/7 and not have to depend on Baldwin Township, Dormont and the City of Pittsburgh.
This park should only be assessed though Mt Lebanon property and not have to go though Baldwin Township. They have houses below the park, let them buy the people out and put their roads in though there. There should be a fence put around the park so that it only has one access into the park. There also should be a gate that is kept locked into the park unless it is being used by Mt Lebanon Sports team and locked at night, so that no kids can get up there and cause problems.
Baldwin Township should tell Mt Lebanon that if you need police up at the park, then hire them for over there when the park is open. This park is going to be a major headache for Baldwin Township police and residents and going to bring down the residents of Baldwin Townships properties. Why can't Mt Lebanon build a park over by where 99% of their residents live and if they want to do something with the ground leave it the way it is. It isn't hurting anyone having woods there.