Man Wants Stray Cats Controlled—Or Shot
A resident's ire has prompted Baldwin Township officials to consider a ban on feeding stray cats. Plus, other township news.
The Baldwin Township Board of Commissioners is considering stricter legislation on stray cats after a township resident on Tuesday night said it's either that or "we should be allowed to shoot 'em."
Randy Balzer, who lives on Donaldson Drive, told the board that he has seen about 20 stray cats on his street alone.
It's a health hazard, Balzer said, while also telling the board that he nearly "lost his foot" after a recent infection that doctors thought was a result of broken skin coming into contact with cat feces.
"We've got to do something with the cats," Balzer said. "My foot is more important than any cat."
Board President Eileen Frisoli said that the commissioners will look at an ordinance barring residents from feeding cats, but such an ordinance may be hard to enforce. Other than that, Frisoli advised Balzer to call the Western Pennsylvania Humane Society or another animal activist group to pick up strays.
"There's nothing we can do," Frisoli said, adding that state regulations regarding the control of stray cats supersede local legislation.
Balzer said that he understood the board's predicament, but he insisted that he would take the matter into his own hands if the problem continued.
"Tell the activists to come after me," Balzer said.
He later added, "I've kicked two of them in my pool. Two are dead."
Balzer's wife, Cindy, said that she worries that the cats, which sometimes drink out of her pool, may spread infections to her children or others in her neighborhood. She suspects that some neighbors are taking in cats to feed them before turning them loose.
"They just keep populating," Cindy said.
Frisoli declined to comment on the likelihood of a ban on feeding strays until the commissioners meet again to discuss it further.
Speaking after the meeting, Balzer said that he owns a dog and considers himself an animal lover. But he draws the line when his and others' well-being is jeopardized.
"I love animals," Balzer said. "I do."
In other news at Tuesday's township meeting:
- Baldwin Township police are participating in Click It or Ticket, a statewide effort to enforce safety belt laws. The increased effort lasts through June 10.
- The board approved a measure that allows Allegheny County to store equipment on the former site of EZ Auto Sales along McNeilly Road. The agreement will last for six months while county workers repair roads, and it requires that the property be restored to its current condition afterward.
- The board voted to spend $35,000 on a 2013 Ford sedan for township police.
- Township engineer Glenn Jonnet said that talks are under way with Pittsburgh Water & Sewer Authority officials for a wet weather control plan. The plan, which is still being negotiated, could include an agreement between Baldwin Township, Dormont Borough and Mt. Lebanon.
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Frank
6:13 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Kicked two in his pool? So he's admitting to animal abuse. He should be charged for that.
Look I agree something should be done about this, but that something needs to be "humane".
I'd like to kick Balzer in a pool, or worse.
JustMe
10:35 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
He should be arrested for this. Sorry but that is animal cruelty.
AATO Army
12:21 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
FYI.....for those who are in favor of a Humane Solution, please join us MONDAY, JUNE 25TH @ 5:30 - 6:30 pm for a Pizza/Poster making party to be a voice for the voiceless victims of Animal Cruelty.
At 6:30 we will march with our signs to the Boro Bldg for a special meeting at 7pm to discuss the fate of the cats. Several local Animal Rescue groups have offered assistance, and the 11 yr old Founder of Animals Against The Odds (AATO) Rescue & Rehab, will make a Humane proposal to Council at this meeting! Let's show this amazing young lady our support for her passion and dedication to helping homeless and abused animals in our backyards!!
We have been contacted by residents who are outraged by Mr. Balzer's criminal actions! As well as his absurd proposals to Counicl! NOW is the time to act, he called us out....so let's show him what the AATO ARMY of Advocates looks like! ;-)
NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOW UP AND BE AN ADVOCATE FOR HUMANE SOLUTIONS!!
For more details, please email AnimalsAgainstTheOdds@gmail.com and please RSVP there as well so we know how many pizzas to order! Thanks for helping us, help the animals
Flea
6:48 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Hey there ... AATO Army .... I read your posting and wanted to put my reply underndeath but this blog does not allow it so I hope you see this.
Are you meeting in Baldwin Township or Baldwin Borough? This happened in Baldwin Township, not the Borough. Big difference. So you need to be more specific because if you are expecting people you have to tell them where to show up.
As a resident of the township dealing with the issue of way too many cats roaming my neighborhood I am curious to know if you offer any help to those of us who seem to have to deal with this because of our neighbors who insist on letting their many pets roam the neighborhood to do their business, dig up plants and flowers and leave the nastiest smells anyone can imagine on patio furniture and chewing on wooden furniture.
While I would never consider hurting or killing any of these pests/pets I should not have to put up with this on my property. I want them off my property. I want the owners to be responsible. I have thought about setting traps to humanely catch them and then take them to a shelter. One of the other neighbors did it because she was disgusted with what she had to clean up on a daily basis.
Any help you can offer will be greatly appreciated.
Jean Smith
7:24 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012
Maybe Amy should tell us were to meet her and hope she knows this happened in Baldwin Township. Is anyone going to be at the Township Building Monday night at 6:30 pm?
AATO Army can you give us more information.
nunya Business
10:50 pm on Friday, November 23, 2012
oh jesus he's a murderer. Pennsylvania laws on feral cats are completely ridiculous because of bleeing hearts everywhere that want to protect fwuffy. Grow up. Life is not a disney movie. feral cats are an invasive species just like feral swine. there are not many wild hogs around why? because they're not fwuffy and the whinebags out there aren't too concerned with it. All I want to say is F-- the whinebags
nunya Business
10:51 pm on Friday, November 23, 2012
oh god send him to the gallows
Kathleen
8:32 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
I understand where Mr. Balzer is coming from. We have the same problem in the Borough. Irresponsible pet owners are the ones that need to be punished. We have stray cats (many), unleashed dogs, etc. It is ridiculous.
Terry
3:08 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Kathleen--if you see an unleashed dog will you kill it? Or will you try to find a way to solve the problem? Mr Balzer has every right to be annoyed, angry, etc. But he killed 2 cats! And feels nothing. There's something wrong with a person who can do that.
JustMe
10:35 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
He needs put in jail for admitting that he kicked and killed 2 cats that are laying in his pool still. Cats can make it out of a pool if it is filled with water. Sure he didn't step in his dogs feces and then blaming it on cats. There are stray cats all over Baldwin/Whitehall area and you can borrow traps from Animal Shelters to trap them and they will come and pick them up. PETA will also send a van out to the neighborhoods and spay animals so that they don't reproduce and will cut down on the cat population. I have neighbors that have 4 cats that run the streets 24/7 and always find dead birds and mice in my yard. Cats bury their feces also and usually do their business under trees and in flower beds and in gardens. On hot days when the humidity is high you can usually smell where they went the bathroom and the smell usually comes from these areas.
Sunflower
11:30 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Trap and have neutered. That's what 2 of my girlfriends have courageously done.
Billee
2:55 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
In my opinion - Bait, trap, neuter and relocate is best until state regulation can permit reform for local areas. However at least the citizen that stepped forward was willing to FINISH THE JOB! Some people of OUR own government denied protection of and for babies of BOTCHED ABORTIONS! In order to finish the job they started - The child is laid on a tray in a soiled utility room and left all alone to die. They are given no NAME, no DIGNITY and no final RESPECT! They are not even given a toe tag of John or Jane Doe because once the child is EXPIRED they are not buried. They are thrown into a red bio hazard bag and hauled away with medical trash to be incinerated. I CALL THAT ABUSE OF A CORPSE IN THE WORST WAY! Some may even ARGUE and state at least they were cremated. Can anyone tell me how this is HUMANE? We need to LOVE and CARE for all of CREATION!
Terry
6:57 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Billie---the topic is cats in Baldwin-Whitehall.
JustMe
7:26 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Billie where in this article do they talk about abortions? Partial Birth Abortions are Illegal in the state of Pennsylvania and all other states. It's been illegal since 2003 and before that many states had a ban on it.
This article is about stray cats running in Baldwin Township and Randy Balzer admitting to kicking 2 cats into a swimming pool and they are still laying there in an empty pool along with all the other garbage in it.
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JustMe
10:29 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Billie it is Trap, Neuter and RELEASE, not relocate. If you relocate these cats, they will find there way back to the neighborhood that they come from. Not sure where you got the relocate at but these cats are taken back to the same areas.
Bridget Fink
3:12 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Jeffrey Dahmer started out hurting & killing animals. I sure hope someone is investigating these acts of animal cruelty! I am a cat owner who grew up & still lives in Whitehall my entire life...45 years. I have never heard of anyone almost losing a limb due to stepping on cat or dog feces, but I do know that any animal bite which breaks the skin, can lead to a very serious infection. I imagine that a cat being maimed, tortured, drowned & killed, would put up one hell of a fight! I sure hope the proper authorities are investigating! I will never understand people who own dogs & claim to be animal lovers, yet hold such hatred for cats! Shame on you Mr. Balzer!
Michelle
4:13 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Right on!
JustMe
7:31 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Every one of us needs to call the Humane Society and report this article or send them an email with this article so that they can take care of this monster that hurt innocent cats because he is not a nice person. Shame on Baldwin Township Board of Commissioners who did not call the police to have him arrested for admitting that he did this.
AATO Army
12:23 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
FYI.....for those who are in favor of a Humane Solution, please join us MONDAY, JUNE 25TH @ 5:30 - 6:30 pm for a Pizza/Poster making party to be a voice for the voiceless victims of Animal Cruelty.
At 6:30 we will march with our signs to the Boro Bldg for a special meeting at 7pm to discuss the fate of the cats. Several local Animal Rescue groups have offered assistance, and the 11 yr old Founder of Animals Against The Odds (AATO) Rescue & Rehab, will make a Humane proposal to Council at this meeting! Let's show this amazing young lady our support for her passion and dedication to helping homeless and abused animals in our backyards!!
We have been contacted by residents who are outraged by Mr. Balzer's criminal actions! As well as his absurd proposals to Counicl! NOW is the time to act, he called us out....so let's show him what the AATO ARMY of Advocates looks like! ;-)
NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOW UP AND BE AN ADVOCATE FOR HUMANE SOLUTIONS!!
For more details, please email AnimalsAgainstTheOdds@gmail.com and please RSVP there as well so we know how many pizzas to order! Thanks for helping us, help the animals
Michelle
3:43 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Homeless Cat Management Team will be working in that area on July 22nd doing up to 30 cats for free. Trap Neuter Release. The HUMANE solution to the problem.
We will back the following weekend to do trap neuter and return more cats at our next free clinic.
If you would like to be part of the SOLUTION not part of the problem (like Balzer) please contact us....cathomeless@gmail.com or 412-321-4060
Michelle
3:47 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Mr. and Mrs. Balzer...shame on you.....you cannot contract diseases from cats drinking your pool water..really? are you that uneducated. Please educate yourself on feral cats instead of blaming them for your infections and disease. There is no know infection that can be transmitted by coming into contact with cat feces unless you are a pregnant woman, Mr. Balxer, are you pregnant?, or do you have an underlying condition that caused your alleged infection?
Lisa McCune
7:03 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
not exactly true. *Anyone* can contract toxoplasmosis from cat feces. But it's only potentially dangerous for a pregnant woman and her baby.
JustMe
11:42 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
ML you can get TOXOPLASMOSIS from eating raw meat.
"What is Toxoplasma gondii?"
It's a parasite found in raw and undercooked meat; unwashed fruits and vegetables; water; dust; soil; dirty cat-litter boxes; and outdoor places where cat feces can be found. It can cause an illness called toxoplasmosis that can be particularly harmful to you and your unborn baby.
"How could I get toxoplasmosis?"
You could get this illness by...
Eating raw or undercooked meat, especially pork, lamb, or venison, or by touching your hands to your mouth after handling undercooked meat. See the Apply the Heat (PDF | 20.3KB) chart for the recommended cooking temperatures for meats.
Using contaminated knives, utensils, cutting boards, and other foods that have had contact with raw meat.
Drinking water contaminated with T. gondii.
Accidentally ingesting contaminated cat feces, which can occur if you touch your hands to your mouth after gardening, cleaning a litter box, or touching anything that comes in contact with cat feces.
http://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/HealthEducators/ucm083327.htm
JustMe
10:39 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012
ML Serologic prevalence data indicate that toxoplasmosis is one of the most common of humans infections throughout the world. A high prevalence of infection in France has been related to a preference for eating raw or undercooked meat, while a high prevalence in Central America has been related to the frequency of stray cats in a climate favoring survival of oocysts and soil exposure. The overall seroprevalence in the United States among adolescents and adults, as determined with specimens collected by the third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES III) between 1988 and 1994, was found to be 22.5%, with a seroprevalence among women of childbearing age (15 to 44 years) of 15%.
JustMe
10:50 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Acquired infection with Toxoplasma in immunocompetent persons is generally an asymptomatic infection. 10% to 20% of patients with acute infection may develop cervical lymphadenopathy or a flu-like illness. The clinical course is usually benign and self-limited; symptoms usually resolve in a few weeks to months. In rare cases ocular infection with visual loss. Immunodeficient patients often have central nervous system disease but may have retinochoroiditis, pneumonitis, or other systemic disease. Patients with AIDS, toxoplasmic encephalitis is most common cause of intracerebral mass lesions, is thought to be caused by reactivation of chronic infection. Toxoplasmosis in patients being treated with immunosuppressive drugs may be due to newly acquired or reactivated latent infection.
Congenital toxoplasmosis results from an acute primary infection acquired by the mother during pregnancy. The incidence and severity of congenital toxoplasmosis vary with trimester during which infection was acquired. Treatment of the mother may reduce the incidence of congenital infection and reduce sequelae in infant, prompt and accurate diagnosis is important. Many infants with subclinical infection at birth will subsequently develop signs or symptoms of congenital toxoplasmosis. Ocular Toxoplasma infection, a cause of retinochoroiditis in the US, can be the result of congenital infection, or infection after birth. from CDC
JustMe
10:51 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Treatment: Toxoplasma
Treatment is not needed for a healthy person who is not pregnant. Symptoms will usually go away within a few weeks. Treatment may be recommended for pregnant women, persons who have weakened immune systems, or persons with ocular disease or severe illness. For additional information, see the recommendations in The Medical Letter (Drugs for Parasitic Infections).
Gimme A Break
4:51 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
I live in Baldwin Township ... my family has for over 20 years. When we moved in we noticed a few cats that always seemed to be outside and thought they were just feral cats. Then I learned that they were cats owned by a resident on the street. This person just decided that it was easier and cheaper to let the cats take care of themselves by eating outside (I am assuming mice, baby bunnies because that is what I always found DEAD in my yard or patio) and doing itheir business outside because I always found cat crap in my yard, my flowerbed, under my shrubs, you name it) and I am sure these supposed cat lovers did not have to purchase kitty litter very often.
Now, there is a family in the neighborhood who started out with just two cats that they let freely roam the streets to do their business. At last count we have approximately 10 cats that are out ALL day ALL night, on the hottest days of summer and coldest days of winter. How do you call yourself a "cat lover" when you treat your so called pet this way? I do not understand.
We have spotted a few raccoons in the woods lately that have come up into our yard. I have a suspicion they may be rabid as they have allowed us to get a little too close to them. I have called the animal authority for our township but they have never come out. If I had a pet wandering the neighborhood I would be terrified of it contracting rabies.
Terry
7:02 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Raccoons are not rabid just because they come close to you. They can also come out during the day, which surprises most people. You may very well be correct about irresponsible ownership of pets. But that's not the cats' fault! Find the people responsible..fine them, etc. In the meatimes, do the humane thing...trap, neuter, return. They will then be a controlled feral colony. They will not permit outside cats to join them. There will be no more kittens being born and the colony will eventually die out.
pita
10:05 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Trust me - if you ever see a rabid animal there will be no doubt in your mind about whether or not it is rabid. It will be completely obvious by it's behavior. Yes, being out in the day IS a POSSIBLE sign of a rabid racoon. Unless it is behaving irratically, wild-eyed, foaming at the mouth and most likely having trouble walking you probably don't have to worry about the daytime racoon out enjoying a little sunshine.
JustMe
11:50 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
ML this is information that I found at the Library of Congress on Rabies
A human is at risk of rabies if he comes into contact with the saliva of a rabid animal through bites, scratches, or licking of open wounds. Transmission is possible from person to person, however, no case has ever been documented.
It can take from 5 days to more than 1 year, usually 3-8 weeks, to develop rabies in humans. The incubation range depends on the severity of the wound, site of the wound, amount of virus presented, and degree of protection provided by clothing.
Development of rabies disease is almost always fatal. Symptoms begin with anxiety, headache, and fever, and then progress to convulsions and paralysis. Without medical care, duration of illness is a short 2 to 6 days; death is often due to respiratory paralysis.
An animal can pass this infection to other animals or humans from 3 to 10 days before the onset of clinical signs (change of behavior, excitability, paralysis, followed by death) throughout the course of the infection.
Gimme A Break
4:55 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
While I do not advocate cuelty to animals I WANT our township officials to do something about this problem. I would appreciate there being some type of ordance that makes cat owners be responsible for their animals. I would bet that the "family" who has all of these "pets" does not have them spayed or neutered or any shots. That would be expensive and I doubt they spend their money that way.
JustMe
11:00 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Gimme A Break, I agree with you on the Cruelty to Animals, have you called Baldwin Township Police on this matter. I don't live in the Township, but I do plan on going to their next Board Meeting and asking why they didn't call the police and have him arrested when he admitted that he killed 2 cats by kicking them into the swimming pool. People that do not want the animals that they purchased should either try giving them away in the Pennysaver, Craigs list or take them to the Humane Society. They don't charge money to drop them off, but they ask for a donation, which could even be just a bag of cat or dog food. PETA does give vouchers out to spay or neuter your animals either for free or a discount.
Gimme A Break
4:57 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
I don't blame the gentleman who wants this problem taken care of. Why should he have to put up with cats in his swimming pool? Why should he have to clean up cat crap? If his neighbors who own these animals have no problem with their animals doing their business in his yard or pool, perhaps they would have no problem if he came over and did his business in their yard or pool!
pita
10:07 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
the cats are in his pool because he KICKED them and they landed in the pool and drowned
JustMe
12:01 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Gimme A Break, I agree that the problem needs taken care of, but he went about it the wrong way. Was there any police reports made about all the cats running around Baldwin Township, if there was then that would of been mentioned when Balzer went to Baldwin Township where he admitted to killing 2 cats.
My daughter in law is a vet and she said that the only way that he would of gotten Toxoplasma gondii, if he had open wounds on his feet when walking around in the yard. I myself wouldn't be walking around outside on grass, cement, asphalt, dirt, sand, etc if I had open wounds on my feet and most people would have them covered up, as any type of infection can be transmitted to an open wound.
tiredofidiots
5:05 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
You are NOT an animal lover if you can kill a cat (or another animal) for your own pleasure and brag about it!
Maybe he should be more worried about being earning a living than making up stories of how doctors say that he obtained an infection from cats!
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/business/news/baldwin-township-couple-among-millions-facing-foreclosure-in-us-turn-to-nonprofit-aid-program-407897/
JustMe
8:01 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Here is some other interesting information http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/CourtSummaryReport.ashx?docketNumber=CP-02-CR-0005427-1994
nunya Business
10:27 pm on Friday, November 23, 2012
I'm an animal lover and I shoot stray animals all the time. Maybe people should stop living in Never-Never-land and humanizing animals and realize that maybe if we don't do something about the overpopulation of stray cats other than TNR (which is a form of animal cruelty anyway) then there will be no animals left except for cats in the wild
Michelle
5:17 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
maybe he should worry about paying his mortgage
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/business/news/baldwin-township-couple-among-millions-facing-foreclosure-in-us-turn-to-nonprofit-aid-program-407897/
nunya Business
10:30 pm on Friday, November 23, 2012
and just because he said he kicked 2 feral cats in the head doesn't give you the right to bring up other things that are totally irrelevant to the matter at hand
Gimme A Break
5:21 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
I hear you and agree ... I don't know how anyone can kill an animal for pleasure. That is horrific. But, on the other hand, how can an animal lover and pet owner leave their pets out to fend for themselves like this? That is not responsible either. I think that if this man got some humane traps and caught these cats and either called the Humane Society to come get or takes them to a shelter himself .. that is the better way to rid his home/yard of them. And when they are on his property, he should have the right to do just that.
JustMe
8:03 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Humane Society will make you put a deposit on a trap for you to trap animals and when you return the trap they give you your money back.
nunya Business
10:31 pm on Friday, November 23, 2012
people are very delusional
Amanda
5:42 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
You're all pathetic! You all must have Ph. D's and know everything right? These cats leave things in my yard and causing problems with my dog. You going to pay the vet bill for my dog to get treated? Cats carry diseases in case you didn't know. They don't have shots...strays duh! You all need to get educated. You know nothing. What is it when people are getting sick due to what disease these cats carry?! So God forbid we protect ourselves right? We can't do that! Poor infectious diseased cats. Get a life. All of you!
Terry
7:05 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Name the disease a cat carries! The only person who should not be around cat feces is a pregnant woman. You have no clue. The diseases cats and dogs get are species specific. They cannot be spread to the other species. You're an idiot.
JustMe
12:11 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
How do we know your dad didn't get an infection from walking around your yard from dog feces. Has this been proven that it only came from a cat and not your dog feces?
Your dad claims to be a animal lover but yet admits that he kicked two cats into a pool and killed them. You are more likely to get ringworm walking around in a yard without shoes on then Toxoplasma
nunya Business
10:35 pm on Friday, November 23, 2012
rabies. Getting treatment for getting bit by a rabid animal sucks. Especially when you feel as though you were doing a good deed for the pooh widdle kiddy kiddy.
Amanda
5:46 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
What does someone's mortgage have to do with anything? Hahah you people crack me up. Stalk the guys life why don't you. Sad
JustMe
1:56 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
You can get typhus, Cat Scratch Disease, Bartonellosis and rabies from your own pets if you don't take them to the vets every year and get checkup and their shots. How do we know that he didn't get an infection from walking in his own dog's feces? How do we know that his animal doesn't go the bathroom inside his home? Looking on the internet there is no articles that state you can lose a limb from walking in cat feces. How do we know he didn't step on a rusty nail and get tetanus on his foot and did not treat it? We don't have any proof of these cats causing his foot fungus as there were no medical bills or anything else presented at the Township meeting.
Meow
5:59 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Amanda,
it means if your dad got a job he could worry about paying your mortgage instead of killing cats.
nunya Business
10:37 pm on Friday, November 23, 2012
really? that's so sweet... poor defensseless widdle kiddy kiddy
Amanda
6:40 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Funny. He HAS A JOB! You don't clearly if you have to start on a website. That was 5 years ago. It's paid, moron. I'll kill cats if it means I won't be getting sick or causing problems to my dad. Dumbass
Terry
7:09 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Allow me to point this out: It's illegal to kill cats. I've copied your threat.
Terry
7:13 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
the article is dated march 16, 2012
JustMe
8:24 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Funny that the banks still own the home and still up for sheriff sale come October.
Meow
7:03 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Stay in school honey....cats can't transmit disease to dogs unless its rabies. Does your dog have rabies?
Terry
7:28 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Toxoplasmosis is also dangerous to somebody with a compromised immune system ie: HIV+, AIDS, etc. But, the point is that cat diseases, FIV,FeLC, etc., are NOT contagious to dogs. The same is true of kennel cough. A cat can't catch that.
Meow
7:47 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
a person is 5 times more likely to get toxopplasmosis from meat or Sushi than from cat feces
Nicholas
8:39 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
First of all the article was written 4-5 years ago. Hes steadily employed now.
First of all, all animals, when born need shots to ensure they won't carry
diseases. Stray cats do not get these shots due to the fact that they are
strays. When the cat goes to the bathroom, these diseases are passed through the
feces. After purchasing yards of mulch, these cats decided that this mulch would
be their litter box. Now the mulch is dug apart, and stinks of cat feces and
urine. And after this past weekend we learned that we need to tend to the garden
in a different way, being that the garden is infected with these diseases due to
the cats using it as a litter box. Should we step in the garden barefoot or with
sandals, we run the risk of contracting this disease which turns into a skin
infection because you do not know you have contracted it until it becomes
infected. It will get in your system through open wounds or even through your
toe nails, as we recently learned. And sure you can debate this (it's what makes
America), just be aware that this is what medical personnel explained to us, and
I would imagine they know what they are talking about but that's just me.
JustMe
8:12 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Wear shoes and gloves when you do yard work then you won't have to worry about catching something. Trap the animals instead of killing them, that is what most humans do, not kick them into an empty pool to kill them.
JustMe
8:30 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Baldwin Township couple, among millions facing foreclosure in U.S., turn to nonprofit aid program 2012-03-16 21:37:00
This isn't 4-5 years ago this was this past March 16, 2012, I don't see the Post Gazette putting the wrong date on an article. The date is set for Oct for Sheriff Sale if anyone is interested in buying a 5 bedroom not 3 bedroom.
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/business/news/baldwin-township-couple-among-millions-facing-foreclosure-in-us-turn-to-nonprofit-aid-program-407897/#ixzz1x6rt5NtW
Nicholas
8:39 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Not only can humans contract this disease, but dogs can as well. And sure people
again will disagree, however one of our neighbors recently took her dog to the
vet because something "wasn't right" and she learned the dog had contracted a
disease from stepping in cat feces. Again debate this and you will be debating
the veterinarian, not me. I didn't say that, the vet did. What if that was your
dad? Or your dog? I'm sure you'd express the same anger too.
JustMe
12:33 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Risk factors
By Mayo Clinic staff
Anyone can become infected with toxoplasmosis. The parasite is found throughout the world.
You're at risk of serious health problems if:
You have HIV/AIDS. Many people with HIV/AIDS also have toxoplasmosis. In some cases, the infection is recent, and in others, an old infection has become active again.
You're undergoing chemotherapy. Chemotherapy affects your immune system, making it difficult for your body to fight even minor infections.
You take steroids or other immunosuppressant drugs. Medications used to treat certain nonmalignant conditions suppress your immune system and make you more likely to develop complications of toxoplasmosis.
You're pregnant. If you have active toxoplasmosis, treatment can reduce the risk to your baby. If you've already had toxoplasmosis before becoming pregnant, you generally can't pass the infection to your baby.
JustMe
12:34 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Complications
By Mayo Clinic staff
If you have a normal immune system, you're not likely to experience any complications of toxoplasmosis, although otherwise healthy people sometimes develop eye infections.
But if your immune system is compromised, especially as a result of HIV/AIDS, toxoplasmosis can lead to seizures and life-threatening illnesses such as encephalitis — a serious brain infection. In people living with AIDS, untreated encephalitis resulting from toxoplasmosis is fatal. Relapse is a constant concern for immunocompromised people with toxoplasmosis.
Children with congenital toxoplasmosis may develop disabling complications, including hearing loss, mental disability and blindness.
JustMe
12:35 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Definition
By Mayo Clinic staff
Toxoplasmosis (tok-so-plaz-MO-sis) is a disease that results from infection with the Toxoplasma gondii parasite. This organism is one of the world's most common parasites.
Toxoplasmosis may cause flu-like symptoms in some people, but most people affected never develop signs and symptoms. For infants born to infected mothers and for people with weakened immune systems, toxoplasmosis can cause extremely serious complications.
If you're generally healthy, you probably won't need any treatment for toxoplasmosis. If you're pregnant or have lowered immunity, certain medications can help reduce the infection's severity. The best approach, though, is prevention.
JustMe
12:36 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Symptoms
By Mayo Clinic staff
You probably won't know if you've contracted toxoplasmosis, although some people may develop toxoplasmosis symptoms similar to those of the flu or mononucleosis, such as:
Body aches
Swollen lymph nodes
Headache
Fever
Fatigue
Occasionally, a sore throat
In people with weakened immune systems
If you have HIV/AIDS, are receiving chemotherapy or have recently had an organ transplant, a previous toxoplasma infection may reactivate and you're more likely to develop signs and symptoms of severe infection, including:
Headache
Confusion
Poor coordination
Seizures
Lung problems that may resemble tuberculosis or Pneumocystis jiroveci pneumonia, a common opportunistic infection that occurs in people with AIDS
Blurred vision caused by severe inflammation of your retina (ocular toxoplasmosis)
JustMe
12:37 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Symptoms
By Mayo Clinic Staff (Part 2)
In babies
If you become infected for the first time just before or during your pregnancy, you have about a 30 percent chance of passing the infection to your baby (congenital toxoplasmosis), even if you don't have signs and symptoms yourself.
Your baby is most at risk of contracting toxoplasmosis if you become infected in the third trimester and least at risk if you become infected during the first trimester. On the other hand, the earlier in your pregnancy the infection occurs, the more serious the outcome for your baby. Many early infections end in stillbirth or miscarriage, and children who do survive are likely to be born with serious problems, such as:
Seizures
An enlarged liver and spleen
Yellowing of the skin and whites of the eyes (jaundice)
Severe eye infections
Only a small number of babies who have toxoplasmosis show signs of the disease at birth. Often, infected children don't develop signs and symptoms — including hearing loss, mental disability or serious eye infections — until their teens or later.
When to see a doctor
If you're living with HIV or AIDS or are pregnant or thinking of becoming pregnant, talk to your doctor about being tested. The signs and symptoms of severe toxoplasmosis — blurred vision, confusion, loss of coordination — require immediate medical care, particularly if your immune system has been weakened.
JustMe
12:39 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Causes
By Mayo Clinic (Part 2)
Come into contact with cat feces that contain the parasite. You may accidentally ingest the parasites if you touch your mouth after gardening, cleaning a litter box or touching anything that has come in contact with infected cat feces. Cats who hunt or who are fed raw meat are most likely to harbor T. gondii.
Eat contaminated food or drink contaminated water. Lamb, pork and venison are especially likely to be infected with T. gondii. Occasionally, unpasteurized dairy products also may contain the parasite. Water can be contaminated with T. gondii, too, but this isn't common in the United States.
Use contaminated knives, cutting boards or other utensils. Kitchen utensils that come in contact with raw meat can harbor the parasites unless the utensils are washed thoroughly in plenty of hot, soapy water.
Eat unwashed fruits and vegetables. The surface of fruits and vegetables may contain traces of the parasite. To be safe, thoroughly wash all produce, especially any you eat raw.
Receive an infected organ transplant or transfused blood. In rare cases, toxoplasmosis can be transmitted through an organ transplant or blood transfusion.
JustMe
12:39 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Causes
By Mayo Clinic staff
Toxoplasma gondii (T. gondii) is a single-celled parasitic organism that can infect most animals and birds. But because it reproduces sexually only in cats, wild and domestic felines are the parasite's ultimate host.
When a person becomes infected with T. gondii, the parasite forms cysts that can affect almost any part of the body — often your brain and muscles, including the heart.
If you're generally healthy, your immune system keeps the parasites in check. They remain in your body in an inactive state, providing you with lifelong immunity so that you can't become infected with the parasite again. But if your resistance is weakened by disease or certain medications, the infection can be reactivated, leading to serious complications.
Although you can't "catch" toxoplasmosis from an infected child or adult, you can become infected if you:
JustMe
12:41 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Prevention
By Mayo Clinic staff
Certain precautions can help prevent toxoplasmosis:
Wear gloves when you garden or handle soil. Wear gloves whenever you work outdoors, and then wash your hands thoroughly with soap and water, especially before you eat or prepare food.
Don't eat raw or undercooked meat. Meat, especially lamb, pork and beef, can harbor toxoplasma organisms. Don't taste meat before it's fully cooked. Avoid raw cured meat.
Wash kitchen utensils thoroughly. After preparing raw meat, thoroughly wash cutting boards, knives and other kitchen utensils in hot, soapy water to prevent cross contamination of other foods. Wash your hands carefully after handling raw meat.
Wash all fruits and vegetables. Scrub fresh fruits and vegetables carefully, especially if you're eating them raw. Remove peels when possible, but only after washing.
Don't drink unpasteurized milk. Unpasteurized milk and other dairy products may contain toxoplasma parasites.
Cover children's sandboxes. If you have children, be sure to cover their sandbox whenever they're done playing. Cats may defecate in an open sandbox.
Nicholas
8:41 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Also, can you guarantee me that these cats cannot pass this disease through
saliva? The doctors can't but maybe someone on here can (although highly
doubtful). After filling up a very deep in ground pool (keep in mind the incline on the water bill from this) we've chased strays away from drinking out of the pool. Like we were told at the hospital, chlorine should kill it but there's also a small chance it may not. So now we can't swim in our pool (not the cats pool) for a few days after giving it tons of chlorine treatments. And let's say our 8 year old neighbor comes down to swim and he gets infected with this disease (I know unlikely but even the hospital said it was possible) and he has to be in the hospital for days to treat this. Then what? You're ok with taking that chance? As a human being I'm not ok with putting an 8 year old at that risk.
Nicholas
8:42 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
What about the cats that had kittens inside a 500 dollar grill? Can't cook on that. If you have the stomach to know that your eating food that came from a grill that was home to a cat while giving birth then more power to you. Especially after seeing all the gross discolored substances in it. So that 500 dollar grill had to be replaced. What about the perfectly good outdoor furniture that reeks of cat urine? You're ok with going out and buying all new furniture knowing fully well that it may go through the same fate as your old furniture? And if that gets ruined you're ok with repeating this process over and over? Even Donald Trump wouldn't be ok with that, but from all these comments it sounds like you people are. And since you all have all the answers here's another question. You are ok with spending 300 on these cats to get rid of them? It costs 15 dollars per trip for the humane society to take these cats and they can only take one per trip. We have counted and recorded over 20 stray cats roaming the neighborhood and at 15 per cat that's 300 dollars. Why should we waste money on cats that are strays? And by the way they only take house cats so we'd have to do our best to convince them they are house cats upon capturing them.
cc
2:24 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
If your parents can afford to pay 500 for a grill then they can afford to pay the mortgage on the house so it won't be auctioned off in October. It cost at the most $30 per feral cat to be fixed, there are a lot of organizations out there that fix these animals for free.
Humane Society
The Western PA Humane Society (North shore and Fallen Timber location) is an open admission (open door) shelter. Open-admission shelters choose to take in all animals regardless of their health, temperament or placement. We accept owned, stray, sick, neglected, abused and dangerous animals. We admit animals from the community on a walk in basis or within short notice. We do not require an appointment prior to acceptance nor will we turn an animal away. Therefore, available kennels and cages are always at a premium. We ask for a donation but we do not charge an admission fee. We charge a service fee for euthanasia requests (based on weight & temperament of animal).
According to Humane Society they ask for a donations to drop off animals but it isn't mandatory that you pay anything.
MLM
1:47 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012
why would a cat have kittens on a grill. I think you people are liars.
Nicholas
8:43 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
All this considered I'm sure some of you will still try to debate me and that's fine but every example I've used here has happened on our street, and all the medical information was explained to us by medical personnel. I look forward to the debates of all these facts, though. And if I do not respond it is because I don't waste my time with dumb people/comments which I've seen a lot of. So I'm glad I cleared this up for everyone. Enjoy the rest of your day
PS I dont care what date that article says, it lists their aige, which is off by 4 years.
JustMe
8:35 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
People lie about their age all the time. They just don't want to admit they hit 50. The article also says it is a 3 bedroom home and it has how many bedrooms? How many cars sit out in your drive way at night, 1 I don't think so.
Terry
9:23 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
first of all, first of all. I didn't post the site about his mortgage...don't really care. But I do care about cats. This is my last comment to you Mr Nicholas. Dumb people abound as do the uneducated. If you choose to believe the ludicrous information you're trying to pass on as fact, so be it. Cornell University is the country's best veterinary school. Feel free to do some research through their website. Your chances of getting a disease from cat feces is about as equal to being hit by a bus in your back yard. And while I agree that what the cats are doing is descructive, etc., It's not justification for killing them. As far as I'm concerned (and I love being a crazy animal advocate) killing any living creature is a sin. Did you ever read "To Kill a Mockingbird"?
JustMe
2:29 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Chance of getting Hit by a bus?
About 2 in 1,000,000,000
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Chance_of_getting_Hit_by_a_bus
ml he didn't shoot the animals, he said he kicked them and killed them in their swimming pool
Momso
9:59 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Wow - did you say you got the medical information from Dr. Quack? Bottom line to this whole story is that Mr. Balzer is an ignoramus and should be answering to Animal Control agents for his abuse to those cats. I can only hope that he is paid back in kind - and soon at that! While I agree that the stray pet population is a problem, this certainly is not the way to deal with the issue. As another post said - you can be part of the solution and if Mr. Balzer is truly an animal lover as he claims then he certainly should be working with the organizations that will humanely trap & neuter those cats. Instead I see the very dangerous issue of Mr. Balzer passing along his ignorance and the idea that it is ok to abuse animals along to his children.
pita
10:20 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
very well said Momso. There is help out there should the Balzers choose to ask for it. Obviously, for them, it is easier to attend a meeting and demand that someone else do something about it. If all animal owners were responsible then this wouldn't even be an issue. Unfortunately they are not. I have personally done TNR so that strays would not reproduce and also know of many other responsible pet owners who have done the same. This, is in addition to caring for their own pets responsibly. The bottom line is cats, either pets or feral, are domesticated animals. Who domesitcated them? Humans. Therefore it is the responsiblity of Humans to care for them and treat them humanely. Also, don't forget that these cats also provide a service to the neighborhoods that they live in. They keep down the rodent and snake population. Wonder how Mr. Balzer would feel if he was relaxing in his pool and a snake swam up beside him??? The fact that they can't use their pool because cats drank out of it is simply one of the most ridiculous things I have heard in a very long time. Mr. Balzer has admitted to animal cruelty. I think those are the laws that need enforced more than taking the time to create a law to prevent the feeding of strays.
AATO Army
12:28 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
FYI.....for those who are in favor of a Humane Solution, please join us MONDAY, JUNE 25TH @ 5:30 - 6:30 pm for a Pizza/Poster making party to be a voice for the voiceless victims of Animal Cruelty.
At 6:30 we will march with our signs to the Boro Bldg for a special meeting at 7pm to discuss the fate of the cats. Several local Animal Rescue groups have offered assistance, and the 11 yr old Founder of Animals Against The Odds (AATO) Rescue & Rehab, will make a Humane proposal to Council at this meeting! Let's show this amazing young lady our support for her passion and dedication to helping homeless and abused animals in our backyards!!
We have been contacted by residents who are outraged by Mr. Balzer's criminal actions! As well as his absurd proposals to Counicl! NOW is the time to act, he called us out....so let's show him what the AATO ARMY of Advocates looks like! ;-)
NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOW UP AND BE AN ADVOCATE FOR HUMANE SOLUTIONS!!
For more details, please email AnimalsAgainstTheOdds@gmail.com and please RSVP there as well so we know how many pizzas to order! Thanks for helping us, help the animals
tiredofidiots
10:55 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
"very well said Momso. There is help out there should the Balzers choose to ask for it. Obviously, for them, it is easier to attend a meeting and demand that someone else do something about it"
This was my point with posting the PG article. The Balzers are people who want someone else to fix their problems instead of acting like grown ups and dealing with issues on their own. It doesn't matter how long ago this was. It's their attitude that disturbs me.
And kicking two cats into the pool, is NOT a solution. Decomposing animals cause disease too.
As for those complaining about disease that cats carry yet talk about their dogs at home. Dogs can transmit disease too! Same with children and other humans!
The cleanliest way to deal with this is to TNR the feral cats. Its proven that when these cats are released, less cats are attracted to this area, meaning less presence of cats for those complaining.
Terry
11:05 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
ML "Ferals are the offspring of those, ferals have never been domesticated, they are basically wild animals". Actually, for a cat to be considered true feral, it needs to be 3rd generation unsocialized.
I think everybody in that Baldwin neighborhood needs to stay in their homes. You just never know what's gonna kill you...a bus into your yard, rabies, typhus, or stray cat poop. Or just a huge case of the dramatics.
pita
11:24 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
ML - If you knew anything about TNR you would know that there are numerous cases where the offspring of ferals who have been taken into foster have been easily and successfully socialized and placed into permanent loving homes. Not all ferals are born that way. Many were in fact someone's housepet who was dumped outside and left to fend for itself. That animal will seek refuge with a feral colony, thereby reverting to feral ways, for safety, food and survival.
Feral cats ARE, in fact, members of the domestic cat species. check out "Feral Cats
Defined" http://www.alleycat.org/Page.aspx?pid=434
JustMe
8:45 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
ML Read this:
Feral kittens can be adopted. Feral kittens can often be adopted into homes, but they must be socialized at an early age. There is a crucial window, and if they aren’t handled in time, they will remain feral and therefore unadoptable. Learn more about kittens and socialization.
Feral cats live healthy lives in their outdoor homes.
Feral cats are just as healthy as pet cats—with equally low rates of disease. They have the same lifespans, too. Learn more about feral cat health.
http://www.alleycat.org/Page.aspx?pid=434
Momso
9:23 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
As a former foster parent for Animal Rescue League, I can attest first hand to the fact that feral kittens can be successfully socialized - although there is a limited window of time for this to happen. I had several feral kittens placed with me and after some patience and lots of love, they have changed from hissing/spitting balls of fur to wonderfully affectionate gentle magnificent creatures. Truly feral adult cats will not allow anyone to get within several feet of them, therefore Mr. Balzer's story just doesn't ring true.
JustMe
10:22 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012
mr ML go to the Mayo Clinic and read what they say. It is people like Mr Balzer kicking and killing cats in his swimming pool, feral cats being poisoned or hit by a car, truck, bus, that they don't live long healthy lives outdoors. You disagree with this and that is only your opinion, can you tell me your credentials on feral cats other than reading what is on the Humane Society page?
pita
11:54 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012
Also - if the 2 cats that were kicked into the pool and killed were truly feral, he would not have gotten close enough to them to actually accomplish the kicking. This would suggest that those either are, or were, someone's pet who was used to human contact. Therefore the blame should not be placed on the cats and, instead, placed on the irresponsible pet owners who either let them roam free or who dumped them off.
JustMe
8:47 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Pita just remember ML attacks everyone, he is always right about everything.
pita
9:32 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
ML - not contradictory at all. The 2 comments are refering to completely different circumstances. Ferals and their offspring are trapped. In order to do this there are no humans in the vicinity. A true feral will never let a human close enough to them to kick them.
JustMe - thank you - if would appear that some people can read and attempt to twist anything around to try and justify their means.
Frank
3:47 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Are there any cat/animal lovers upset by Mr. Balzer's actions here? If so, I recommend you do what I do. I just filed a complaint with the Humane Society's investigations department. Here is part of my report to them:
Actor: Randy Balzer
Actor's Address: (hidden)
Date: June 5th 2012, or earlier
Complaint: Mr. Balzer has admitted at a public office meeting in front of witnesses from the public as well as the Baldwin Township Board of Commissioners that he willfully abused and killed two stray/feral cats by kicking them then drowning them in his backyard swimming pool. There is a problem with stray and feral cats in this particular area of Baldwin Township which needs to be taken care of, however Mr. Balzer's efforts constitute animal cruelty which falls under the following Pennsylvania Animal Cruelty Law: Pennsylvania, 18 PA Cons. Stat. 5511 Cruelty: Fine of $50-$75, imprisonment up to 90 days. Kill, Maim or Disfigure Domestic Animal: Fine of not less than $500. Kill, maim, mutilate, torture or disfigure any dog or cat: Fine not less than $1000, imprisonment up to 2 years. I urge a swift response in this matter as I feel that Mr. Balzer will do this again given the opportunity, which unfortunately is likely due to the cat problem in this area. Thank you.
The more people to file a complaint, the better. Take just a few minutes and do the same as I did. Here is a link to do so:
http://www.wpahumane.com/complaint2.html
JustMe
8:48 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Don't stop at just reporting to the humane society, there are many other places to report him to.
Momso
8:52 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT. Thank you for the link. This whole situation and the Balzer's actions have been gnawing at me since I first read the article yesterday. I will certainly be filing a complaint as well, just have not had the time to look up the appropriate organization to contact. (As a very responsible pet guardian - after all who really "owns" another living creature, I am busy taking care of the animals I am blessed to have in my home) Anyway, there are a couple things that I am wondering about: the term "medical personnel" is very vague....is this someone who works in a hospital/doctor's office/over zealous student from one of the medical assisting schools/ or is this person truly a licensed physician? I'd honestly like to know who this person is so that I could avoid their advice under any circumstance. Secondly, "almost" losing a foot? That can be any situation, depending upon the person telling the story. Seems very dramatic when there are probably 1000 other reasons much more plausible for a foot infection. And my final comment before filing my complaint is this: I would hate to be a member of the Balzer family - I'd bet that their mailbox will be overflowing with hate mail, people driving past their house just to get a look, and everyone in the neighborhood watching every move. Not to mention the legal issues that will be heading their way.
Frank
1:36 am on Friday, June 8, 2012
@Justme What other agencies could I report him to?
Frank
1:41 am on Friday, June 8, 2012
@ML. You may be correct there, however whenever it comes to animal cruelty, I can't base my actions/decisions on 'assumptions'.
cc
8:24 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012
Frank you can report animal cruelty to the ASPCA, local police Baldwin Township (I called them about this article), State Police, County Police, Humane Society, Animal Friends, Peta,
The Pennsylvania Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals is setting up a statewide hot line to report animal abuse.
Executive Director Howard Nelson says the hot line officially opens Friday, but calls are already being taken. The toll free number is 866-601-SPCA. The Philadelphia-based society has six satellite offices around the state, along with 14 agents who can enforce cruelty laws.
AATO Army
12:29 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
FYI.....for those who are in favor of a Humane Solution, please join us MONDAY, JUNE 25TH @ 5:30 - 6:30 pm for a Pizza/Poster making party to be a voice for the voiceless victims of Animal Cruelty.
At 6:30 we will march with our signs to the Boro Bldg for a special meeting at 7pm to discuss the fate of the cats. Several local Animal Rescue groups have offered assistance, and the 11 yr old Founder of Animals Against The Odds (AATO) Rescue & Rehab, will make a Humane proposal to Council at this meeting! Let's show this amazing young lady our support for her passion and dedication to helping homeless and abused animals in our backyards!!
We have been contacted by residents who are outraged by Mr. Balzer's criminal actions! As well as his absurd proposals to Counicl! NOW is the time to act, he called us out....so let's show him what the AATO ARMY of Advocates looks like! ;-)
NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOW UP AND BE AN ADVOCATE FOR HUMANE SOLUTIONS!!
For more details, please email AnimalsAgainstTheOdds@gmail.com and please RSVP there as well so we know how many pizzas to order! Thanks for helping us, help the animals
Kristin
6:01 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
i too filed complaint with the humane society, just hope they do something about it.
AATO Army
12:30 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
FYI.....for those who are in favor of a Humane Solution, please join us MONDAY, JUNE 25TH @ 5:30 - 6:30 pm for a Pizza/Poster making party to be a voice for the voiceless victims of Animal Cruelty.
At 6:30 we will march with our signs to the Boro Bldg for a special meeting at 7pm to discuss the fate of the cats. Several local Animal Rescue groups have offered assistance, and the 11 yr old Founder of Animals Against The Odds (AATO) Rescue & Rehab, will make a Humane proposal to Council at this meeting! Let's show this amazing young lady our support for her passion and dedication to helping homeless and abused animals in our backyards!!
We have been contacted by residents who are outraged by Mr. Balzer's criminal actions! As well as his absurd proposals to Counicl! NOW is the time to act, he called us out....so let's show him what the AATO ARMY of Advocates looks like! ;-)
NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOW UP AND BE AN ADVOCATE FOR HUMANE SOLUTIONS!!
For more details, please email AnimalsAgainstTheOdds@gmail.com and please RSVP there as well so we know how many pizzas to order! Thanks for helping us, help the animals
Robert Edward Healy, III
8:49 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Mrs. Crane, sorry, but we do not allow actual or masked profanity in the comments section. Your adjusted comment is as follows:
"Where can one file a complaint against these people who keep bringing these cats to their home(s), call them their beloved pet(s) and then do not even keep them in their homes to enjoy as their pet(s) but put them outisde 24/7 365 days a year that, yes, have ruined flower beds, patio furniture cushions, patio furniture, left dead songbirds and baby bunnies on doorsteps, etc.for all of their neighbors to have to deal with. Please, those of you who know where to file complaints .... I need to know where to file this complaint about the irresponsible humans on my street who continue to to do this.
Please do not tell me that these cats are doing anyone a favor by cutting down on the snake and rodent problem. I still have snakes, chipmunks, mice. What I DO NOT have any more are the beautiful songbirds who are ambushed by the nasty felines. I DO NOT WANT THESE ANIMALS IN MY YARD OR ON MY PROPERTY PERIOD."
JustMe
2:55 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Mrs Crane, I would check where you live and see if there is a limit on the number of pets that a homeowner can have and if they are over the limit i would report it to local authority. If you feel an animal is being neglected you can report them also to the humane society and other animal organizations and they will come out and investigate.
JustMe
8:49 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
There are other organizations that he can be reported to and just don't stop at one
Kathleen
8:58 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Wow, this article has certainly garnered a lot of attention. The problem is the article is about stray cats (and irresponsible owners) not someone's personal life. As much as I agree that there is a real problem with strays, I don't believe it has anything to do with a person's financial or personal problems. I would love it if everyone was as responsible as I am with my dogs (leashed, curbed and picked up after). The strays in my neighborhood make my dogs crazy which, at 5:00 am, wakes up all of the irresponsible people -- I personally get some pleasure out of that fact.
Margaret French
9:22 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Amen Mrs Crane! I am sick and tired of these cats around my house too. I find dead animals, feces, etc. Also, they leave hair on my cushions and I have a bad allergic reaction to cat dander. I am sick and tired of my eyes swollen shut when I just want to sit outside on my own property, I am a dog owner and my dog is licensed and has all his shots. He is NEVER allowed off my property unleashed. These people who leave their cats out to do all this damage and cause medical problems need to be fined and also should have to pay for whatever results.
I hope the woman who lives on Caste Drive who has the black and white cat reads this because I am calling animal control again soon to have it trapped and taken away. Let this be your warning. Animal control can't trap them until the night time temperature doesn't possibly go below 40 degrees. That black and white cat is always around, even at zero degrees with below zero windchill. How much could she really care for it? It makes me sick since I consider it animal abuse.
JustMe
3:05 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Margaret you can rent a trap from the humane society for 50 and when you return it they will give you your money back. They had to start charging deposits on them because people did not return them. Then you can drop the cat off to the shelter in the cage also, and they ask that you give a donation. It isn't mandatory to donate to them. I have 2 dogs and one cat all licensed, have shots and pick up after my animals. They also have a nice dog park out in South Park if you want to let your animals run without a lease on them. In the spring and summer I do take my dogs out there every Sunday morning to run around and they seem to know when Sunday is because they are prancing around the bed at 6 am in the morning. They do ask you to pick up your dogs waste in the park and extra plastic bags are always welcomed to be placed in the bin for them. One of my dogs even brings me both the leases so that we can go to the park.
JustMe
11:21 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
10 Tips for Keeping Cats out of Yards and Gardens
6. Cover exposed ground in flowerbeds with large attractive river rocks to prevent cats from digging (they have the added benefit of deterring weeds).
7. Plant the herb “rue” to repel cats, or sprinkle the dried herb over the garden.
8. Use a motion-activated sprinkler. Any cat coming into the yard will be sprayed but unharmed and it is good for the lawn. If you are unable to find one, telephone Contech at 1-800-767-8568 to find out how to order one.
9. A garden repellent called Reppers, manufactured in Holland by Beaphar, is available at PetsMart, petsmart.com, pets.com, Foster & Smith or your local pet store. Reppers retails for around $19.95.
10. A non-chemical cat and wildlife repellent called CatScat is made of plastic mats that are pressed into the soil. Each mat, complete with flexible plastic spikes, is cut into four pieces. The spikes are harmless to cats and other animals, but are effective in discouraging excavation. They are sold in packages of 5 for aproximately $12.95 from Gardener’s Supply Company, at www.gardeners.com or 1-800-863-1700
Susan Rose
11:43 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
The people who love them enough to feed them sould adopt them or dont feed them at all. Maybe they would kill rats and be useful. ( yes, there are rats in whitehall)
I think the mild winter has dramaticly increased the population of wild cats. There are about 6 on southvue drive.
ItisME
12:48 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
While I so appreciate the tips and products mentioned to keep the nasty cats that ARE supposed pets of other residents my question is WHY should I have to put out the added expense of having to buy products to keep the nasty little felines out of my yard that I work so hard to keep neat and orderly. I am also one of those complaining about the people on my street who, it seems every week, have yet another new feline that sits outside their house looking to get in but rarely if ever does because it is just easier for them to let them run our street and killing the birds, rabbits, etc. and leaving their disgusting droppings in my yard. I cannot even sit on my patio because of the cat feces/urine smells that come from the flower beds and shrubs in my front yard.
Terry
1:51 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
In your perfect world, you could have a perfect house, perfect lawn, perfect garden. But this is the real world. God created lots of things you'd rather not deal with. Some solutions are so easy without killing. I would also prefer the deer not eat my shrubs, but I'm not going out there with a rifle. I'll try to find another way. People who kill cats have serious cruelty issues. It's just not normal to kill a cat and feel nothing. I understand the cats are problematic. I, too, have cats who are indoors & a dog in a fenced-in yard. But I still find dog poop on my front lawn. Do I want to kill the dog who does it? Of course not! Let's get a grip people. Work toward the solution. Cut the dramatics about disease. That's just rationalization. Some of the cats may be feral. Some may be your neighbors' pets. The ones who were killed were probably somebody's pet. A feral won't let you close enough to kick into the pool. Direct your anger appropriately...at the irresponsible owners.
Terry
12:44 am on Friday, June 8, 2012
So what do you want to do? Do you want to complain, talk about disease, or try to find a solution? Or maybe you'd like to just go out and kill them. I will say one more time...you & your neighbors can complain about everything or do the humane thing. There's something wrong with a person who can kill a cat and feel nothing. Every one of you needs to either rent the movie or buy the book "TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD".
cc
1:31 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
There is a problem with feral cats all over the Baldwin/Whitehall area. Where I live we went around the neighborhood and collected money from the neighbors for the purpose of spaying and nueter feral cats. Off of 3 streets we have raised $1,000 and have had around 16 cats fixed so far. of the 250 houses that we went too we only asked each neighbor to pitch in $2.00 for this project. Twice a month they fix feral cats and you have to make an appointment to get them fixed. It cost $50.00 to rent a trap and will be returned when you bring back the trap. It cost $20.00 to fix a feral animal. http://www.animalrescue.org/trap-neuter-and-return
This is how their program works:
Identify that there is a feral cat in your neighborhood (more...)
Schedule an appointment with Clinic: 412-661-6452 x 211 or tjones@animalrescue.org
If needed, arrange to borrow traps with cklingensmith@animalrescue.org or brush@animalrescue.org by leaving a $50.00 cash deposit that will be refunded when the traps are returned to the shelter.
Trap the cat(s) the evening before the scheduled surgery (more...)
Safely transport the cat(s) to the Animal Rescue League between 8:30am and 10:00am the day of your scheduled appointment.
Pick the cat up at the designated time and follow post surgery instructions before returning the cat to its natural environment.
pita
9:41 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
as someone who has alos done TNR, thank you CC and thank you to your neighbors. I also know of others who are actively working at helping and TNRing cats in their neighborhoods as well. If there were more people willing to take a little time to help out a lot more could be accomplished. What a great idea asking people to chip in.
Margaret French
12:52 am on Friday, June 8, 2012
And what do people do who can't even get near them due to allergies? And why leave they loose again when they will still be going to the bathroom? Also, where to return them to their natural environment that you aren't fined for leaving an animal? Sounds like a good program but it really doesn't answer solve the problem.
cc
3:49 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Margaret French, I'm not sure where you live but would really like to help you. We got to talking about the feral cats roaming a few years back when we were having a street party. We talked about the TNR and ended up collecting 120 that day. We got in touch with an with the Animal Rescue League and a few of us went down there and were taught how to trap these animals and how to bring them to the shelter and then to release them back into the neighborhood. Pam who is really allergic to cats takes care of the money, going and picking up the traps and finding homes for the kittens that are in foster care. There are only 4 of us that actually do the work with trapping the animals, but we do appreciate the neighbors that donated a few dollars to help out so that we can get the animals fixed. We have neighbors who donate food to put in the traps (leftovers from dinners), the kids on the street had a few lemonade stand over a few weeks to raise money to buy formula for the kittens this past spring when we found 5 kittens less than a week old and few weeks later we got another 4 kittens. We are hoping to get another 15 cats or more spayed and neutered. There were also about 12 new kittens that popped up that were to old to make them into pets.
Michelle
1:49 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
As I had previously mentioned....Homeless Cat Management Team offers trap lending and no-charge clinics. We are doing up to 35 cats in that area July 22nd (trapping will be July 21st) for FREE. We're transporting, trapping, paying for it, etc. We can't make it any easier for you. All you have to do is contact us. homelesscat.org
pita
9:41 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Thanks Michelle! Homeless Cat Management has helped me out in the past and your efforts are truly appreciated.
cc
1:56 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Randy Balzer you should be ashamed of kicking 2 innocent cats and killing them. It isn't the cats fault they are feral that people had cats at one time and abandoned them and they went out and they reproduced. Those animals could of been captured fixed and returned to nature. Cindy Balzer, you say your swimming pool is full of water and from checking Google Earth today, that isn't the case at all. The pool is showing empty.
Brian
12:30 am on Sunday, June 10, 2012
Wow, the world is going to trash, people eating one another and all you people have to worry about is a couple of stray cats. And shame on you people stalking and googling this man's house. This is creepy and harassment. Let the council and police figure it out.
Terry
12:56 am on Sunday, June 10, 2012
Sadly, the council and police have done nothing, Brian. I think that's why people are so upset. You're right. The world is going to trash. But I can't save the world. So I try to do as much as I can for its innocent inhabitants. The shame falls on Mr Balzer for killing cats, not on anybody writing on this blog.
Momso
1:22 pm on Sunday, June 10, 2012
Brian - I couldn't agree more with your statement that the world is going to trash. But you know, we all have a chance to make a difference in this world and we can support whatever cause is close to our hearts. I certainly don't feel like paying extra taxes to support the people who cheat the system and collect all kinds of benefits that are better than what the "average" person has. The educational system in this country is far behind in math & science & the United States is no longer the super power we once were. As several posts have said, why should I have to pay anything / do anything when I can complain to an organization & expect them to fix it? But the whole beauty of this system is that WE can make a difference. Can you imagine how much better this world would be if every person did SOMETHING to help with whatever cause they choose? You can't just sit back and expect the world to become a better place without taking some action. If you support cancer research or AIDS research, etc....who am I to judge? At least the people who are passionate about these cats are trying to make a positive difference. Have you ever heard of the Butterfly Effect? You never know what effect the actions you take today will make tomorrow.
AATO Army
12:31 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
FYI.....for those who are in favor of a Humane Solution, please join us MONDAY, JUNE 25TH @ 5:30 - 6:30 pm for a Pizza/Poster making party to be a voice for the voiceless victims of Animal Cruelty.
At 6:30 we will march with our signs to the Boro Bldg for a special meeting at 7pm to discuss the fate of the cats. Several local Animal Rescue groups have offered assistance, and the 11 yr old Founder of Animals Against The Odds (AATO) Rescue & Rehab, will make a Humane proposal to Council at this meeting! Let's show this amazing young lady our support for her passion and dedication to helping homeless and abused animals in our backyards!!
We have been contacted by residents who are outraged by Mr. Balzer's criminal actions! As well as his absurd proposals to Counicl! NOW is the time to act, he called us out....so let's show him what the AATO ARMY of Advocates looks like! ;-)
NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOW UP AND BE AN ADVOCATE FOR HUMANE SOLUTIONS!!
For more details, please email AnimalsAgainstTheOdds@gmail.com and please RSVP there as well so we know how many pizzas to order! Thanks for helping us, help the animals
pita
9:44 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Another way to report any animal abuse is by calling the Western PA Humane Society at 412-321-4625 ext 216
Momso
10:48 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012
Hmmm... has this thought occurred to anyone else? The likelihood of contracting an infection just from stepping on cat or dog feces is small - what if one of those so-called feral cats put up a fight when it was "kicked" and then bit Mr. Balzer on the foot? Much greater chance of infection from a bite!!! If that was the case, it's a shame that his foot or another body part did not fall off!
cc
3:54 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Momso, that is what I was thought when I first read the article. I believe in the saying "that stupid people shouldn't breed."
Terry
4:27 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
I just bought a 'ribbon magnet' for my car: "Spay/Neuter Stupid People"
Momso
4:42 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
To Terry - Would like to know where you found the car ribbon. Thanks
Terry
5:11 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
This is the website for 'ribbon magnets'. http://www.supportourribbons.com/
You can buy what they have, or make one of your own. They didn't have exactly what I wanted, so I made it myself. You can order as many or as few as you like. I have a few friends who also wanted one, so I ordered 4. You pick the color and the font. Mine will say "Spay/Neuter Stupid People" :-)
Terry
1:10 am on Friday, June 8, 2012
Margaret French--so what would you do.....kill them? There have been at least 10 ideas listed here for people to repel the cats. But your neighbors just seem to come up with reason NOT to try them. None of the tips are expensive. oh, I know..why should you have to pay anything, right? Maybe because it's the easiest thing to do??? And it's HUMANE! What in the world is wrong with your neighborhood? We give ideas and all you want to do is kill.
Margaret French
9:49 am on Friday, June 8, 2012
Terry- First of all I never said to kill them and I am against killing anything. Also, I am not in "that" neighborhood. I just want them trapped and taken to the owners and having them pay a BIG fine, and double it if they can't prove the cat had their shots. If they are feral cats then trap them and turn them lose somewhere out in the middle of nowhere since supposedly shelters won't take ferals. Besides, what are the shelters going to do with them if they are not a "No Kill" shelter? They are going to kill them.
cc
4:16 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Margaret if you dump them out in the middle of nowhere they will make there way back to your neighborhood. They have instinct to do just that. When my family first moved into Whitehall, our cat ran away (it was an indoor cat), but went for walks on a leash. An old neighbors about a month later gave us a call that she had our cat as it showed up at our old house. We went and picked her up and brought her home and made sure she didn't sneak out the house again.
Terry
3:29 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012
Margaret.--ferals can NOT be just turned loose elsewhere. They will return, or at least try to return, to their territory. It's not that easy. TNR doesn't stand for trap,neuter, dump 'em somewhere else for a reason.
Margaret French
5:28 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012
Terry-you don't seem to understand. Why return them after neutering since one of the problems is they defecate and urinate all over, not to mention leave cat hair causing allergies. The problem isn't solved. You don't get it, do you? We are tired of poop, pee and hair! Neutering doesn't consist of sewing their buttholes or urethra shut. We also shouldn't have to wait for them to live out their lifetime and dye of natural causes.
Terry
5:32 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012
Margaret---you obviously haven't read all of the posts. It has been discussed ad nauseum. And people have been given MANY tips on how to keep the cats away from their property. I'm done...it's been said over and over and over and over.........
Jack O.
10:22 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Margaret ... The problem is not solved. I still have these damn cats doing their business in my yard, etc. Why, just this morning one of the little darlings sprayed the wheel/tire of one of my vehicles I suppose marking his/her territory. How lovely. Yesterday I went out to buy all the fixings to put around my yard, etc. to keep these nasty animals off my property. I'll let you know how it works out.
Zandy Dudiak
5:59 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012
Two posts have been removed for violating the terms of use.
cc
4:30 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Jack O, if the cats were neutered then they wouldn't be spraying your tires of your car. If they are spraying the tires, get some crushed red pepper, the kind they use on pizza, and sprinkle it around the area of your tires The crushed pepper burns the pads on their feet and they won't go near there again. Male cats spray to let females know that there is a tomcat in the area. if they were fixed then they won't be spraying your tires.
cc
8:19 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012
Frank you can report animal cruelty to the ASPCA, local police Baldwin Township (I called them about this article), State Police, County Police, Humane Society, Animal Friends, Peta,
The Pennsylvania Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals is setting up a statewide hot line to report animal abuse.
Executive Director Howard Nelson says the hot line officially opens Friday, but calls are already being taken. The toll free number is 866-601-SPCA. The Philadelphia-based society has six satellite offices around the state, along with 14 agents who can enforce cruelty laws.
Frank
8:56 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012
Thanks for the info cc.
cc
7:22 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Your welcome Frank, I seen Justme didint' answer you, but that is whom I reported him to and quite a few of them were interested in this article also.
JustMe
10:26 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012
10 Tips for Keeping Cats out of Yards & Gardens
Here are some helpful suggestions for neighbors who wish to keep cats out of their yards and gardens.
1. Cat Stop® is an ultrasonic, battery-operated cat repellent with a motion detector. See the SafePetProducts web site to read more about this highly recommended product.
2. Push wooden chopsticks or 10-inch plant stakes into flowerbeds every eight inches to discourage digging and scratching.
3. Cats dislike citrus smells. Scatter orange and lemon peels or spray with citrus-scented spray. You can also scatter citrus-scented pet bedding such as Citrafresh.
4. Coffee grounds and pipe tobacco also work to repel cats. Some people have also suggested lavender oil, lemon grass oil, citronella oil, eucalyptus oil and mustard oil.
5. Spray cat repellent (available at pet supply stores) around the edges of the yard, the top of fences, and on any favorite digging areas or plants. For information call your local animal supply store or PetsMart Corporate Office at 602-580-6100 or visit them on-line at www.petsmart.com.
JustMe
10:27 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012
10 Tips for Keeping Cats out of Yards and Gardens
6. Cover exposed ground in flowerbeds with large attractive river rocks to prevent cats from digging (they have the added benefit of deterring weeds).
7. Plant the herb “rue” to repel cats, or sprinkle the dried herb over the garden.
8. Use a motion-activated sprinkler. Any cat coming into the yard will be sprayed but unharmed and it is good for the lawn. If you are unable to find one, telephone Contech at 1-800-767-8568 to find out how to order one.
9. A garden repellent called Reppers, manufactured in Holland by Beaphar, is available at PetsMart, petsmart.com, pets.com, Foster & Smith or your local pet store. Reppers retails for around $19.95.
10. A non-chemical cat and wildlife repellent called CatScat is made of plastic mats that are pressed into the soil. Each mat, complete with flexible plastic spikes, is cut into four pieces. The spikes are harmless to cats and other animals, but are effective in discouraging excavation. They are sold in packages of 5 for aproximately $12.95 from Gardener’s Supply Company, at www.gardeners.com or 1-800-863-1700.
Terry
3:24 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
I think the chopsticks are the best way to keep critters out of the garden. I'd put them closer than 8", though. If there are little spikes sticking out, they won't really be seen, but the cats won't be able to walk around the garden. Cats are also repelled by moth crystals/balls. The only problem with them is that rain washes them away, so you'd need to keep replenishing.
cc
8:49 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Coffee grinds also work well to keep cats from digging in under trees. Plus coffee grinds are good for plants so your killing 2 birds with one stone. That is if your a coffee drinker. You can also go to Starbucks and ask them for used coffee grinds, I ask them every spring right before I start getting my garden ready if I can have the used coffee grinds and they are happy to give them to you. Be careful though when you put the bags in your trunk as they can leak all over if the bag has a hole in it.
cc
8:43 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
Was reading the news today and came across an article that states:
http://news.yahoo.com/organic-meat-may-higher-parasite-risk-152507756.html
A food-borne illness known as toxoplasmosis doesn't grab the headlines the way salmonella or E.coli outbreaks do, but new research suggests that some organic meats may be more likely to carry this parasite, which can then be transmitted to consumers who eat these meats, if undercooked.
"The new trend in the production of free-range, organically raised meat could increase the risk of Toxoplasma gondii contamination of meat," the authors wrote.
Robert Edward Healy, III
11:01 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012
dave d.,
You had some profanity in there. An adjusted comment is as follows:
"Yes, do try the mothballs. The little (buggers) must hate the smell of the mothballs. I have used them in my yard and they do work. Instead of smelling cat urine/feces, you smell the scent of the mothballs. I have put them on the perimeter of my property ... I especially put them along the edge of my front where it meets the street. I also have the wonderful people who insist on walking their dogs (and I do love dogs) and letting them squat and poop and then have the audacity to leave it for me to pick up. Just love the ones who walk them late at night and think I don't see it. Tell you something else that works. I witnessed a neighbor allow their dog to make a deposit on my yard. Once they did not pick it up, I managed to get it into an empty cool whip container and I left it on their front porch right outside the door with a note that told them that they must have forgotten something and I was being kind enough to return it. They never did it again. While we are all talking about the animals doing this to our properties, they do not know any better. But the supposed owners .... they should know better and shame on them."
JustMe
10:18 am on Sunday, June 10, 2012
Dave a better way is to scoop it up with a shovel and walk it over and dump it on their front porch in front of their door, knock on the door and tell them that you brought them back the present they left you in the yard. Tell them that they are great neighbors but you don't accept gifts from neighbors, then turn and walk away. This also stops them from letting their dogs do their business in your yard.
AATO Army
12:19 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
FYI.....for those who are in favor of a Humane Solution, please join us MONDAY, JUNE 25TH @ 5:30 - 6:30 pm for a Pizza/Poster making party to be a voice for the voiceless victims of Animal Cruelty.
At 6:30 we will march with our signs to the Boro Bldg for a special meeting at 7pm to discuss the fate of the cats. Several local Animal Rescue groups have offered assistance, and the 11 yr old Founder of Animals Against The Odds (AATO) Rescue & Rehab, will make a Humane proposal to Council at this meeting! Let's show this amazing young lady our support for her passion and dedication to helping homeless and abused animals in our backyards!!
We have been contacted by residents who are outraged by Mr. Balzer's criminal actions! As well as his absurd proposals to Counicl! NOW is the time to act, he called us out....so let's show him what the AATO ARMY of Advocates looks like! ;-)
NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOW UP AND BE AN ADVOCATE FOR HUMANE SOLUTIONS!!
For more details, please email AnimalsAgainstTheOdds@gmail.com and please RSVP there as well so we know how many pizzas to order! Thanks for helping us, help the animals!
Robert Edward Healy, III
2:57 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
@AATO Army,
Please keep in mind that this is Baldwin TOWNSHIP, not Baldwin Borough.
Terry
8:42 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012
Unless something happens (like a stroke:-) I hope to be at the Baldwin Borough Buiding around 6:30.
Robert Edward Healy, III
8:47 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012
Terry, an fyi: This is Baldwin Township and NOT Baldwin Borough.
AATO Army
1:37 pm on Monday, June 25, 2012
^ Baldwin Township Municpal Building is located at 10 Community Drive, Pittsburgh, PA 15234
JustMe
5:41 pm on Monday, June 25, 2012
AATO has joined forces with Homeless Cat Mgmt Team, Funds For Ferals, Animal Advocate, Hearts and Paws Ministry and Alley Cat Allies to present a Humane Solution to the Homeless cat problem in Baldwin Township. We are offering a FREE TNR program to the Council and hope they accept, with the condition that the safety of the cats will no longer be threatened!
All in favor of a Humane Solution, please join us MONDAY, JUNE 25TH 5:30 - 6:30 pm for a Pizza/Poster making party to be a voice for the voiceless victims of Animal Cruelty.
At 6:30 we will march with our signs to the Baldwin Twp. Municipal Bldg for a special meeting at 7pm to discuss the fate of the cats. Several local Animal Rescue groups have offered assistance, and the 11 yr old Founder of Animals Against The Odds Rescue & Rehab, will make a Humane proposal to Council at this meeting! Let's show this amazing young lady our support for her passion and dedication to helping homeless and abused animals in our backyards
We have been contacted by residents who are outraged by Mr. Balzer's criminal actions! As well as his absurd proposals to Council! NOW is the time to act, he called us out..so let's show him what the AATO ARMY of Advocates looks like!
IT TIME TO SHOW BE AN ADVOCATE FOR HUMANE SOLUTIONS
PLEASE WEAR PURPLE OR A PURPLE RIBBON FOR ANIMAL CRUELTY AWARENESS WEEK!
AATO Army
1:35 pm on Monday, June 25, 2012
We are welcoming any and all supporters of a Humane TNR program, to attend the Pizza/Poster making party prior to the meeting, and ask that you RSVP at: AnimalsAgainstTheOdds@gmail.com for the details of when/where. **This private gathering is for the Purple Ribbon Army of Advocates Against Animal Cruelty and supporters of a Humane solution, only.**
Everyone is welcome to attend the public meeting at 7pm at the Baldwin Township Municipal Building, 10 Community Park Drive, Pittsburgh, PA 15234.
Jean Smith
8:08 pm on Tuesday, June 26, 2012
What wonderful children these 2 are that care enough about animals and are doing the right thing for them. Do you have an address that I can send a donation too. And thank you for what you did in Baldwin Township Last night.
Robert Edward Healy, III
2:50 pm on Tuesday, June 26, 2012
No swearing please. By the way, story on this issue from last night's township meeting coming very soon.
Robert Edward Healy, III
5:12 pm on Tuesday, June 26, 2012
If you hadn't seen this UPDATE yet: http://patch.com/A-v6zs.
Robert Edward Healy, III
1:47 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Good for a laugh: http://patch.com/A-v8d0.
DisgustedResident
2:53 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
With regard to this cat situation in Baldwin Township ... I find nothing funny about it and I am not laughing.
Just this morning I came out on my front patio to give my plants and flowers a good watering. The first thing that greeted me was the putrid smell of a cat turd in the dirt at the end of my patio where I sit and where my guest sit. The sour smell was overwhelming. I live in the area of Crestline/Edgeridge/Haverhill and this is a constant occurrence. I have tried everything from dropping mothballs and coffee grinds which is becoming costly and I should not have to pay to keep my irresponsible hillybilly neighbors' cats off my property. My neighbor also tried the coffee grinds but when it rained their effect was gone and he, too, found the cat turds in his yard. He was disgusted and furious as I am.
I have had enough. Enough. I am contacting the authorities to set up the traps around my yard and whatever is caught will be taken away. Maybe these animals will get to a home where someone actually cares about them. It is almost 100 degrees out there right now and these cats are out and about. There is one trying to get in by sitting on the windowsill scratching.
I do NOT care what anyone says or thinks about my wanting to have these animals HUMANELY trapped and taken away so rant all you want. How would you like to have these turds left all over your property? How would you like your furniture destroyed?
cc
4:18 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Disgusted Resident, you have to make arrangements to get traps from Animal Friends or Humane Society to trap them. They will come get the animals once they are caught but not the feral ones. I use the coffee grounds and it does the trick under my bushes and make a monthly run to StarBucks to get them free of charge. I have about 4 inches of coffee grounds covering under my bushes, flower beds and in my garden. I haven't had cats going to the bathroom under them in 2 years now. The only expense I have is picking coffee grounds up at Star Bucks. Since I've been doing this my flowers, bushed and garden need less watering as the coffee grounds keep the ground moist.
DisgustedResident
2:56 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Until these irresponsible hillbillies around here take better care of their pets and keep them off other residents' properties, I am afraid we have to start fighting back. When they realize that their precious little pets are gone (HUMANELY) by animal control trapping and taking away, perhaps they will realize what this is doing to the neighborhood.
And go ahead, tell me about how they will go to a shelter where they will euthanize them? I have given up caring. They don't care. Why should I?
Maybe I will post a picture of the huge turd just left on my patio this morning. If you want these cats in your neighborhood, just say so. Their pee, turds, killed birds, killed bunnies, etc. come with the package.
MLM
4:27 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Animal Control will not come and set traps for you and remove animals for you.
Karen S.
9:29 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
I live in this area and have the same problems. I have gone to Starbucks and gotten two HUGE bags of coffee grounds from them. I have put them down around my shrubs and flowers. I have done all that. I have also put mothballs out which stops them from coming until the rains come and the mothballs are washed away. I, too, have had the displeasure of coming out in the a.m. and finding cat feces in my yard. I take my wicker chairs in EVERY night because I got tired of the cat fur (and I am seriously allergic) and furballs and the urination smell on my cushions.
I don't blame you for wanting them gone. I am like you and want them out of my yard and off my property. I have a three year old grandson who visits me. I can't let him out in the yard until I have checked it for the animal feces left behind by those who do walk their dogs late at night and do NOT pick it up because they think no one sees them as well as the cat feces left by the cats owned by people in the neighborhood, that being Edgeridge/Haverhill area. Why should I or others have to put sticks into the ground to keep the cats out? I used the coffee grounds. That actually has not worked as of yet. Why should I have to do extra work to keep my yard clean ... I do enough already. Why shouldn't the jackasses who own these cats be more responsible? How about next time my grandson visits I take him over to the cat owners' yard and have him drop his pants and leave his business?
Terry
6:23 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
some things are just not that difficult. buy a bunch of cheap chopsticks. stick them in the ground..try to have just an inch sticking out...put them close to each other and the cats can't even walk around, let alone use your garden as a litterbox.
there is always a humane solution....just ask for one
JustMe
7:01 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Popsicle sticks work also and are $1 for 200 at Dollar Store. Cut the top with a razor blade to look like this ========> , have the pointy end sticking out of the ground.
Karen S.
9:32 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
Difficult? Yes, how difficult would it be for the cat owners in the Edgeridge/Haverhill area to keep their pet cats in their home? Why should I have to clean up after them? I do not own them and I do not want them. I did not read where anyone has suggested any inhumane solution. Because the owners cannot be responsible they should have them. They should go where someone will love them and care for them. That to me is MORE humane than how they are being cared for now by irresponsible owners.
Terry
9:39 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
and what exactly do you think will happen at the shelter? do you people live in a bubble? let me spell it out for you: they will be killed. but I guess if you don't see it happen, you can pretend you did the right thing. yep.....a piece of furniture is much more valuable than a living creature.
AnotherAngryNeighbor
3:36 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
I know what MIGHT happen at a shelter. I know very well. Let me tell you I am an animal lover probably more than you. I love the wild animals in my yard ... the bunnies, the songbirds, the deer. I hate to see the cats killing the bunnies and songbirds. Yes, they are only doing what they do instinctively. They should not be outside. And, quite frankly, because my possessions mean a lot to me, my furniture that I have had to work very hard and save for, is more important to me than my neighbor's cat that is left to fend for itself. I do care about the animals, probably more than the idiotic owners.
JustMe
5:13 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
There are many ways of keeping cats out of your yard, off your expensive wicker furniture that has been in your family for hundreds of years. Lowes or Home Depot will be able to give you advice on what to spray or you can look up on the internet. Even a inside cat will kill, it is an instinct born into them.
AnotherAngryNeighbor
3:15 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
If you have to go to Lowes or Home Depot or wherever to purchase anything to keep these cats off your property and from ruining or further destroying your property you should take the receipt for the products or whatever you spend and take it to those wonderful people in your neighborhood who own these cats and give them the bill.
Margaret French
10:01 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
While all the sugestions on here are appreciated I agree with ML that a person shouldn't have to do anything to keep the cats away. They shouldn't be out in the first place. I don't care if the materials are free or one dollar and only takes a minute to do. It is still the point that we shouldn't have to. I have enough of other stuff I have to do. I suppose the trapping and neutering program is worth a try and might help. I myself though couldn't do any post op care since I can't even be near a cat (or rabbit) due to SEVERE alergies. @ JustMe... your comment about getting advice from Lowe's or Home Depot. I think ML means that the furniture has already been ruined beyond help. ( I may be wrong though) And it is a darn shame if it is.
JustMe
11:21 am on Friday, July 27, 2012
We have problems with feral cats here also. I went to lowes and got a spray from them that keeps cats off my wicker furniture. Crushed red pepper seed will also work at keeping them off your furniture as they burn their paw but the bad thing about this is when they wash their faces they do have a chance of burning their eyes. I do agree that neighbors that leave their cats run should be held accountable but it is up to the Borough and Townships to have lease laws and police force to enforce them. It will take away from the other jobs that police officers do but what other solution is there? I wish my neighbors would keep their cats in their homes also and have talked to them about it but they just say yea yea yea and the next thing you know is that their cats are back in your yard. Animal Control says you have to get a trap yourself and then they will pick up the ones that aren't feral. TRN is the best solution for feral cats but our neighbors have to take responsibility for their animals.
AnotherAngryNeighbor
3:19 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
My wicker furniture has been ruined as well. My cushions are urinated on and smell terribly. It is disgusting. I am another neighbor who wants to take my child and let them take a huge load on the people's property whose numerous cats continue to crap in my yard. I think I will start to do this. Hmmm, is there a product my neighbor can buy from Lowes or Home Depot that they can spray on their yard or furniture that will keep my little boy from leaving his crap on their yard?
JustMe
7:31 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Margaret - What I was saying is that Lowes and Home Depot sells products that you can spray in your yard, furniture and bushes to keep unwanted cats out of your yard. ML doesn't want to spend her precious money on purchasing products to keep them at bay. I would rather spend 10 on a product then have to replace an expensive wicker set on my patio. I spray my wicker furniture with a cat repellent every night and haven't had a cat ruin my furniture. To me spending 10 a month is cheaper that replacing expensive furniture.
JustMe
10:50 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Why not just sit on your expensive plastic containers that you have to keep on purchasing to put your cushions in. That way your killing 2 birds with one stone.
Terry
8:09 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
You guys keep saying you shouldn't have to buy repellents, you shouldn't have to put chopsticks in the ground, you shouldn't have to pick up poop.....
I'm sure you've heard woulda, shoulda, coulda....this is a variation of that theme. Maybe you shouldn't have to do things to repel the cats. Maybe the owners are irresponsible. Maybe the cats have no owners and are feral. But now what?? You can argue those points forever, but the cats are there. If you don't want to spend $10 to solve the problem, then you're just a chronic whiner There's a solution, but you don't want to take that route . Solve the problem or continue to whine.
ML...I know which route you'll take :-D
JustMe
10:16 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Terry you are so correct in your answer. I don't like these animals on my property but have found solutions to keep them off my property, from ruining my wicker furniture. I also believe in TRN. There are also cheap, inexpensive, and free fixes for keeping cats from going under your bushes, around your trees and in the garden but they don't want to do that. They would rather sit on here and whine about the cats instead. You can also look up on the internet free and cheap ways to keep feral cats out of your yard.
JustMe
1:53 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
ML It keeps the cats from ruining my furniture and that is the main thing. I didn't say it was a permanent fix. I not whining that they ruined my things and I have to use plastic stuff now boo hooo hoo and have to use horrible expensive plastic containers.
JustMe
11:23 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
ML you were the one complaining about the containers. Maybe you should read what you wrote "ML
1:24 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
You're right, Margaret French, and yes, the cats owned and the strays fed by the crazy cat lady destroyed the unreplaceable furniture.
Now we just have that cheap kind of plastic furniture, and have to gather all the cushions and pack them away in a storage bin (another expense) every night to keep any remaining cats off of them.
Thankfully here the problem is greatly reduced since the cat lady moved away. But I feel bad for whoever lives in her new neighborhood!"
Margaret French
9:09 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Just me- ten dollars a month adds up to $120.00 a year, after two years $240.00. Do the math. It is an expense that some can't afford if they are on a fixed income. As for the brown spots on your lawn from dog urine. I suppose you fertilize your yard? When a dog urinates on it then it fertilizes that spot. Then that spot becomes over fertilized and burns out/turns brown because too much fertilizer is not good. I do not fertilize my yard and where my dog urinates it is a thicker darker taller green spot of grass. Counteract the brown spot by putting sugar or some form of sugar on it. Example, some left over flat pop. The sugar neutralizes the nitrogen and it will come back to green faster.
JustMe
10:45 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Margaret I only keep my porch furniture outside from May to Sept and to me it is worth money to spray it instead of having to spend a grand a year to purchase furniture for 2 porches. I spent good money to put sod in my yard and when you get 10 dogs going the bathroom in the same spots, then you get to much nitrogen and brown spots and the grass dies out. . I have one neighbor that has 4 chocolate labs that a husband and wife walk 4 times a day and they never clean up after their animals and always does their business in the same spots. Their front lawn looks perfect as they don't let their dogs on their grass in the yard, but they could care less about other peoples yards and forget about talking to them about their dogs as they say they aren't doing any harm to any ones yards because they are on leashes.
Terry
11:06 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
I have a corner lot with 3 large shrubs on the corner. Everybody walks their dog past them and every dog pees on them. Two years ago, one of the shrubs died. Guess what I did. "damn those dog walkers". I bought a new shrub. And guess what else. I'm on a fixed income! Then I found a website where I could whine about it for 6 months. BTW...I don't fertilize my back yard...my dog does. And I also have brown spots where he pees. Dog urine kills grass.
Margaret French
11:31 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012
Terry-I don't know what to say since my dog always pees on my grass and it has never turned brown. Maybe every dog's chemistry is different. I don't know. I do know there are pills that you can give your dog so that the urine doesn't kill the grass. My daughter givesit to her dog. Also, try sugar like I said. It won't help it over night but a few times a week and it should look normal in a short time.
JustMe
10:14 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Margaret depends on the dog, what type of dog food you feed them. Your probably feeding your dog food that has a high content of meats, fish, fruits and vegetables and less fillers and that is why you dog isn't putting out high contents of nitrates to ruin your yard. Dog foods made with a high content of corn makes the dogs liver produce excess nitrates. When purchasing dog foods you should avoid foods that are strictly made from corn,soy, wheat and barley (listed up at the top of the ingredient list). According to what some breeders say you should buy dog food with meats, fish, fruits and vegetables then using the fillers of rice and oatmeal as the main ingredients and to keep away from corn, soy and wheat. A healthy diet means you have a healthy dog and can prolong the life of your animals. Its up to the individual on what they purchase for their dog to eat. To keep cats from having a strong urine odor they need to eat more proteins and and should be drinking high amounts of water. Cats should drink a quarter cup to a cup of water a day and it is very important to give them fresh water many times during the day.
Dorothy S.
12:28 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Just chiming in on this long conversation:
Those who are complaining about this or, as some of you are calling them "whiners" you have every right to complain, whine or whatever. Keep complaining, keep whining, do whatever you have to do to get this problem under control. Why should you have to put up with these animals ruining your property and furniture. Do WHATEVER you need to do.
To those people who are referring to these people rightfully "whining": how about you give us your address(es). You have all the answers and think that your remedies will work for everyone. You don't care if these people might be on fixed income or just don't want to have to spend their own hard earned money to keep unwanted pests off their properties. Yes, please, give us your addresses. I'd be happy to trap these wonderful animals and bring them to your homes to urinate, crap, throw up, scream during fighting or mating while you are asleep at 2 a.m., etc., crap on your yard, furniture, leave the dead bunnies and birds that they catch.
Oh, you are bothered by me saying this and are going to say something cute. Go ahead. If you have no problem or think the rest of us are complaining too much, then you will have no problem supplying your addresses so that we can make sure you know what it is like to have to deal with this crap on a daily basis.
Terry
1:54 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
I have a better idea. Put your address out here on the internet & I'll come to your house to pick them up. What a stupid thing to say.
JustMe
2:16 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Dorothy, how about you giving me your address so I can bring more of these lovely cats that we have running around or neighborhood over to your place. Send the dog walkers over there so they can use your yard as a litter box, kill your grass. I think in this economy everyone is on a fixed income with how prices keep on going up but money doesn't. Dorothy there are a ton of ways to keep cats out of your yard and from doing their business under your plants and shrubs and you can find them all on the internet. I learned about using coffee grinds under my plants and bushes from someone at Home Depot of all people and it really works, doesn't cost me anything at all to stop at a Star Bucks once a month and get used coffee grinds and place them in my garden and around my flowers and shrubs. But you get one that complains why should I have to do the work, but yet all she does is complain. I love working out in my yard on the weekends and if I can keep these cats from using my yard as a litter box and keep them from using my furniture as their bedrooms I'm going to do it. I enjoy my home and keeping my yard nice but we have neighbors that doesn't let their own animals do their business in their own yard because they have to have a perfect yard but think nothing of their animals ruining your yard and they don't even clean up the mess from their animals and you can tell them till your blue in the face to keep their animals off your property but they don't.
Ne12u
2:23 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Dorothy, next time we're bothered by such here, I'll be in touch. I'd love you to trap them and take them to certain homes, where their actions ("to urinate, crap, throw up, scream during fighting or mating while you are asleep at 2 a.m., etc., crap on your yard, furniture, leave the dead bunnies and birds that they catch. ') will be so welcomed by those who consider anyone else to be just whining.
Great post!
cc
3:10 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Ne12u, People have found solutions to keeping feral cats and other peoples cats out of their yards and have posted suggestions.. There have been many of great ideas shared on this page on how to keep these animals out of their yards. Yes, some of the idea make you do a little work but the exercise you get from doing them will do anyone good. Just being out in the sun give you Vitamin D which is also good for your body. I found ways to control the cats from going under my bushes, from tearing up my porch furniture. and from keeping them out of my yard. Would be nice now if the neighbors that walk their dogs would find another place for their dogs to relieve themselves instead of in peoples front yards It wouldn't hurt them either to pick up after their animals either. I don't walk my dogs in the neighborhood, I take them out to the dog park in South Park and they have a dog run in my backyard that they do their business in.
Terry
1:55 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
ML---I knew you wouldn't let me down!!! :-)
JustMe
9:21 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
why because your always attacking people that you think you don't deserve it back.
Terry
10:57 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
JustMe...thank you! ML has whined and complained since this blog began on June 6th. She has been given lots of ideas to help, but is constantly negative. She won't try anything. And when this started, everybody was trying to help. If you go back and read the blog, you can see her attacking everybody and every idea people gave her. I am so over her! :-D
JustMe
11:15 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
Terry she does that on all blogs not just this one but she is the expert on everything. ML needs some cheese to go along with her whines.
cc
1:53 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
ML did you every look up the word blog. Any time you answer on a post that allows comment your blogging.
Ne12u
2:20 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
Every time U post on a forum you are posting a comment to a thread, each thread has a discussion topic. internet etiquette is to stay on topic and to address the topic, stating your information and/or your opinion, not using a forum to post childish insults to other contributors with whom you may disagree.
cc
8:49 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Terry I've been reading this over and you are so correct. Saying that Mental Health people have deemed her a crazy lady and is telling others in the neighborhood that she is a crazy lady goes against HIPPA Regulations and leaves these Mental Health Professionals open for a lawsuit and I don't see this happening at all. They pay into Malpractice Insurance and they don't want their already outrageous premiums going up. Mental Health Professionals do not go around saying that she is a crazy lady. Only see one person calling her a crazy lady. I'm sure if there was a crazy lady with Cats in Baldwin Borough then there would be articles on the Patch, in the Post Gazette or on the news. These stories hit the news all the time.
Terry
11:42 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012
I think I'm gonna check the ingredients of my dog food again. I know the first ingredient is chicken (not by-products), but I need to look at the grain content. I was actually looking into the cold meat products Giant Iggle carries now. He's an older guy...a 9 yr old basset. I sure don't want him to get fat...his back wouldn't be able to take itl. So I have him on senior food but I need to look at it again.
JustMe
9:00 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Terry just ignore the rude remarks they are so not worth it. My daughter in law is a vet and is the one that told me about what kind of dog and cat food to purchase. By buying pet food that has oatmeal and rice you can add a few years of life onto your dogs life.
Margaret French
12:08 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
I know one thing. My dog is overweight at 81.5 lbs. My vet told me to stop feeding him Kibbles and Bits because it is high calorie. She said I should be able to feel his ribs but not see them. She couldn't feel my dogs ribs. I have been trying to watch what I buy. I can't remember what I have now because I buy the big bags and pour it into a huge plastic container so I don't have the bag anymore.
Terry
10:39 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012
ML I really think it's time for you to grow up. You really have no valid point if all you can do is play the semantics game.
JustMe
1:31 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012
Terry I so agree with you. ML do you have this ladies medical history that she was deemed crazy or is that your opinion. People have compassion in life unlike you. She might of seen these cats as starving since they were abandoned and wanted to help them. God said to help the less unfortunate and this is how she might of seen these cats but all you ever do is call people names and are very rude.
nofire pitts
4:00 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012
This is quoted from above:
Margaret French
9:22 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012
"Amen Mrs Crane! I am sick and tired of these cats around my house too. I find dead animals, feces, etc. Also, they leave hair on my cushions and I have a bad allergic reaction to cat dander. I am sick and tired of my eyes swollen shut when I just want to sit outside on my own property, I am a dog owner and my dog is licensed and has all his shots. He is NEVER allowed off my property unleashed. These people who leave their cats out to do all this damage and cause medical problems need to be fined and also should have to pay for whatever results."
Hmmm.
My cats stay inside my house. A couple of cats come visit me once in a while. I pet them. I have not had property damage from them, but I don't deny that the problems discussed above are real.
I quoted Margaret's comment above because I got a chuckle out of her ALLERGY reference. Why is that funny to me? This is the same Margaret French who just went out and bought herself a fire pit after a lengthy discussion on another thread about neighbors becoming ill or being trapped inside their homes with their windows closed up due to wood smoke from fire pits. Geez, what if those cats were climbing in your windows to give your allergies a good run? That's what it's like to have your wood smoke come inside my house when I'm sitting inside minding my own business. Get it? Sitting on your porch is nice, huh? I like it too, SMOKE FREE. Get it?
cc
3:10 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
nofire pitts It is Margaret right to go out and purchase a fire pit for her patio and to sit outside and enjoy it on chilly nights. Your the one that was complaining about them. No one is stopping you from sitting out on your porch. Have you gone out to El Rama and made a complaint about the smoke that comes off the power plant, it causes more damage then a fire pit does. Have you gone over to the steel mills and coke plants around here and complained to them yet, they are 100 times worse than a fire pit is. Margaret neighbor is not trapped in her home either as Margaret said she is always coming and going and forever out in her driveway spraying it with water to get the few dust particles off the driveway. Margaret is entitled to her fire pit and to burn it 24/7 if she chooses, after all Whitehall doesn't have an ordinance against nor did you show up at the meeting to complain. Put a fan in your window and have it suck all the hot air that comes from your mouth then you won't get any smoke in your home. I plan on having people over to night in your honor for swimming and a cook out on the fire pit tonight, that should make you feel special.
cc
6:50 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012
nofire pits - you need to do your homework as their are cats that people can own that have allergies. Go read this article and maybe you will learn something Top Hypoallergenic Cat Breeds for People with Allergies http://www.catster.com/cat-breeds/hypoallergenic-cat-breeds
cc
2:47 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
ml your link doesn't work but wouldn't of expected anything less.
Ne12u
2:26 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
http://www.cat-world.com.au/hypoallergenic-cats-do-they-exist
LINK WORKS FINE. GOOD INFORMATION.
Margaret French
9:02 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012
nofire pitts-that is like comparing apples to oranges. Also, leaving your cats roam the neighborhood is not allowed, fire pits are. Remember, nobody showed up at the meeting to protest them.
Hey cc-I got that fishing pole for the fire pit yesterday. Did you ever order any? If you want to see what they look like first you can see mine if you can figure out where I live. LOL They are nice and built good and also made in the USA. I'll be home all day.
cc
2:43 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
Margaret I did order one for my grandson and it should be in this week. I heard that they also carry them at Ganders in West Mifflin. Haven't gone there yet to check it out yet. How's your daughter doing any word on the baby yet.
Margaret French
3:02 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
She has a C section set up for Sept. 5th. If she makes it that far. She was originally suppose to have a C section anyway but then she started that dilating. She still gets contractions and is SUPPOSE to rest. (yeah right!)
Thanks for the info about Ganders. I wonder if they are the same brand. This one is made good. I will check them out at Ganders when I have a chance.
cc
3:26 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
I have purchased a lot of camping gear from Ganders and never had any problems with their products. I got my grill grate from their that was big enough to go over the fire pit so we could cook food on it.
Good luck to your daughter and will keep her in my prayers that she makes it till her due date.
Margaret French
3:04 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
Actually the link doesn't work because there is no space between the period and the link. http://www.cat-world.com.au/hypoallergenic-cats-do-they-exist
Margaret French
8:22 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012
cc I hope you have that pit fired up real good. I wish I could smell it here. :) I can't wait to put mine together and fire it up on a chilly night and use that "fishing rod" and make hot dogs and smores and sit around the fire and talk to friends all night.
Terry
12:14 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
ML so makes me giggle. When she thinks she's making a good point, she likes to use bigger words, toss in a little Latin, then quote an article she googled. There are multiple opinions about hypoallergenic cat breeds. Some peopole suggest that a Rex is better for people with allergies because his hair is very fine with no thick undercoat. And some people think a thick coated cat like the Maine Coon causes a sensitive person more problems. The thicker coat seems to hold the dander longer.
For people with allergies, there is now a product like a baby wipe. You wipe the cat with them. UC at Davis and Cornell have reported no scientific evidence of hypoallergenic breeds, but there are cats seem to cause few problems for people.
Ne12u
2:15 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
So now your suggestion is to somehow make your irresponsible neighbors select only the breeds that MAY be less of an allergy problem, and then to catch them and wipe them down with another product you have purchased?
Thank you so much for this valuable solution.
Terry
2:19 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
cc----you don't seem to understand. ML knows everything!!! Just ask her!
cc
11:56 am on Monday, July 30, 2012
Terry, totally agree she is the professional authority on everything but know little about nothing other than to Google articles and use Thesaurus to make big words to make herself seem smart.
Robert Edward Healy, III
12:52 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
A reminder, folks, to please be civil. We should respect each other and each other's opinions even if we do not agree.
Ne12u
2:16 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
So TERRY suggestion is to somehow make your irresponsible neighbors select only the breeds that MAY be less of an allergy problem, and then to catch them and wipe them down with another product you have purchased?
Thank you so much for this valuable solution.
INFORMATION here may be more valuable to other readers with comprehension ability:
http://www.cat-world.com.au/hypoallergenic-cats-do-they-exist
cc
2:50 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012
We were talking about breeds of cats for people with allergies. http://www.catster.com/cat-breeds/hypoallergenic-cat-breeds
Ne12u
12:16 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
FROM that article:
Is there such a think as a hypoallergenic cat? This article looks at the causes of cat allergies, hypoallergenic cat breeds & how to reduce allergy symptoms.
No! There are no hypoallergenic cat breeds.
Before I discuss what is causing the allergies I have some interesting facts for you.
The prefix "hypo" means "less than" and thus the word hypoallergenic tells the kitten/cat buyer that the breeder believes the cat to to produce fewer allergens than other cats. How is this measured or regulated - well it isn't. There are no legal regulations defining allergens (let alone allergens in cats), nor are there any guidelines. So the world "hypoallergenic" has very little meaning.
Terry
4:31 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Ne--You need to read a little further back. you took me out of context.".allergies" was a different topic and conversation.- None of us disagrees with you. Some breeds are 'better' than others, but there is also no such thing as a totally hypoallergenic dog. But when it comes to dog or cat information, I try to refer to Cornell or UC at Davis. They are the 2 leading veterinarian schools in the country.
Terry
4:37 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Mr Healy. I agree with you. But some people LOSE respect very quickly. I don't think I have ever spoken out about any one person like I have here, so to spare myself the aggravation, I will bow out. There is ONE PERSON here who does nothing but disagree with everything & everybody. That person does not have conversations. If you read from the beginning here, she even argues that this is a blog. She argues everything! Sadly, I fell into the trap of responding. I was warned by others who already left this site. I will do so now.
cc
8:16 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Terry I have to agree with you.
BRUTUS
1:04 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Looks like Terry and Co tired of threatening the guy who kicked the cats, moved on to bullying and then threatening to leave, boo hoo.
Yes, it is funny.
cc
10:35 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Brutus are you ML incognito, since your sticking up for someone that is always on the attack of others.
BRUTUS
1:15 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Maybe time to shut thread down?
Margaret French
1:39 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
This thread got more comments than the "Obamacare" one! Hmmm... wonder if the cats are Dems or Republicans.. Oh wait, they are ferals so they must be Independents! LOL
cc
7:02 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
LOL
BRUTUS
11:33 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
cc
8:49 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Terry I've been reading this over and you are so correct. Saying that Mental Health people have deemed her a crazy lady and is telling others in the neighborhood that she is a crazy lady goes against HIPPA Regulations and leaves these Mental Health Professionals open for a lawsuit and I don't see this happening at all. They pay into Malpractice Insurance and they don't want their already outrageous premiums going up.
Mr CC you surely do have some vendetta going with Terry against poster ML. I also have read over the posts and you are worse than the GOP machine in pulling a line or word out of context and making another swipe with it. When reading all the comments I see quite a few others agree with things he has said but you only take aim at one person. When you have a personal problem like that, you should be adult enough to take it off the forum lest you make yourself look very guilty.
Referring to a former neighbor as crazy is no HIPPA violation, get real.
Sounds like your are trying hard to sound threatening, this I find odd after your comment about dropping dog feces on your neighbors porch. Or perhaps a pattern.
cc
10:05 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Mrs. Brutus, I'm tired of being ATTACKED By ML and she attacks everyone on every story if you don't agree with her way of thinking. , there was a comment made about her that Rob removed, but were the truth. We gave her suggestions on keeping these cats away and from ruining furniture but she just wants to complain and not do anything about it or says why should she have to spend money. I haven't had cats using my yard for litter boxes and ruining my furniture in 4 years. Yes I have to do work to keep them out of the yard and might spend 50-60 a year, but i'm able to sit out on my porches and not have to worry about the odor from the cats on furniture that wasn't destroyed by cats. I love going outside after it rains, my yard smells like coffee and not cat odor.
Robert Edward Healy, III
10:11 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Call me Bob. :)
cc
10:16 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Mrs Brutus, ML was the one that said that the Mental Heath people deemed her neighbor lady a crazy lady and so did ML neighbors. That is when I brought up the HIPPA laws and they are not allowed to call anyone crazy or even talk about a person to someone else.
"The HIPAA Privacy Rule provides federal protections for personal health information held by covered entities and gives patients an array of rights with respect to that information. At the same time, the Privacy Rule is balanced so that it permits the disclosure of personal health information needed for patient care and other important purposes.
The Security Rule specifies a series of administrative, physical, and technical safeguards for covered entities to use to assure the confidentiality, integrity, and availability of electronic protected health information. "
Mrs Brutus, When someones dog does their business in my yard and they don't clean up after the animal that they own, I return what they left there. I shouldn't have to clean up after their animals does their business in my yard.
cc
10:31 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Will do Bob.
BRUTUS
11:54 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
I have read the posts in question and that is definitely not what ML posted.
I have seen no attacks, unless you think that everyone has to agree with you or else you call that attacks. I call it disagreeing, everyone has that right.
And the name is Brutus. Not Mrs.
cc
2:25 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
well Mrs Brutus since you called me a Mr then I can most certainly call you a Mrs. but he is the quote that ml stated "ML
"7:27 am on Sunday, July 29, 2012
Crazy described her actions, and it was not my opinion, it was the consensus of the entire community, including several mental health professionals, thank you so much for asking this vital to the discussion question."
Under HIPPA laws a mental health profession cannot talk to anyone and to say even her actions were crazy. She can be held liable for any type of remark that she makes.
ml is on everyone case that doesn't agree with her and i am done with you MRS Brutus.
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4:28 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Terry sure got it right about you ml and she left the thread but you still keep on pointing things out to her, which i find comical. I love now that all your neighbors are in the mental heath field. I just have to laugh at your comedy hour now.
Henry S.
1:11 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Okay, enough already. We have a problem in this area.
Bottom line: The irresponsible owners of cats in the township need to be fined or whatever it takes for them to take care of their animals that are left out to destroy other residents' properties, etc. Perhaps our township commissioners can do something to put some type of ordinance into effect to prohibit cat owners from letting their pet cats roam freely.
How about it Baldwin Township Commissioners? Just a hint: There are irresponsible cat owners on Haverhill Road, Edgeridge Road and Crestline. Start with Haverhill Road and work your way up.
BRUTUS
7:27 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Good idea again, Henry S. With the significant fines that were suggested by poster ML above. And in Baldwin Boro and whitehall too not just Baldwin Twp