Good question, Sas, haha! Here's Franks' Shoes' listing: http://patch.com/L-rfv0

You have quiet the uncle, Sassy.

Frank I totally agree with you that they leave garbage and broken glass all over the lot. What is so wrong with them throwing a white or black garbage bag in their car before they go down to Caste Village and putting their trash in them. I'm sure the ones cleaning the parking lot the next day would rather pick up 1,000 garbage bags then cleaning up all the broken glass, cans and other garbage they leave all over the place.

Margaret, last year I was down there the day of fireworks because I had to go to the dentist and there was 2 ladies that has about 10 spots saved with lounge chairs and they also took over 2 handicap parking spaces. I went over and yelled at them because there was an elderly couple that wanted to pull in one of the spots and they didn't want to move their chairs that they had set out. I got my cell phone out and told them that unless they had handicap parking plaques or tags they cannot block handicap parking and told them I was calling Whitehall Police. I got called a few choice words but they did move the chairs for the couple then. What was really sad was they were drinking around lunchtime and their kids were running around the parking lot dodging cars and the mothers were not making sure their children were safe. I was kidding with my son that we should go down there and take 10 cars and park them down their so we have spots. But he laughed because we usually squeeze 10 people in the SUV, and try to only use one spot.
A great fundraiser for Whitehall Fire Department would be to charge $10 for each saved parking spot, since people don't like to support the fire dept. If they did this then there would be a ton of open parking spaces.

Wait a cotton-pickin' minute here! Are you saying you want the NANNY STATE BIG GUBBERMINT to step in and help you when you or somebody you like feel wronged by a neighbor?

Are you thinking, "Well, isn't that why I pay my taxes? Elect those public officials?" But YOUR government is only there to help with the things that bother YOU, right?

But if that same elderly couple had respiratory problems or cardiovascular disease that was aggravated by the smoke from YOUR BACKYARD FIRE PIT, and the old girl called the cops for assistance because she was too timid to confront you and all your friends because you're so popular and everybody comes to sit in YOUR backyard while she and her husband are alone with the windows closed...or, OMG, they went to COUNCIL to try to get relief via ordinance, well, now, girls! Now that's just TOO MUCH NANNY STATE GUBBERMINT!!!! People should shut up, stay inside with their windows closed 24/7 and let YOU have YOUR fun!!!!!!! That's the PROPER role of gubbermint!

Ain't dat what da FOUNDING FATHERS SAID????

Now I understand.

Margaret can't wait till Saturday to hear about what happened up on the path the night before. I heard the NO PARKING SIGN and NO TRESPASSING signs were put up illegally and there won't be any enforcement on the signs.

ml -that isn't the case for everyone that lives in Whitehall since people live behind the Baldwin High School and can't see the fireworks from their homes and they live in Whitehall. Places in Castle Shannon also have an awesome view of the Fire Works coming from Caste Village, so do homes in Baldwin have a great view of the Fire Works. Then again Whitehall is the best place to live.

And you don't have to hunt for a place away from home to get a great view.
Any extra cars around, etc, is just for one night.
I guess if anyone is strongly bothered by the event being close to their home, they could make plans to be out somewhere else that night.

Yes leaving the neighborhood that night is a great solution, so that people from Baldwin can come over and park in your grass.

Margaret I have to agree with you, they would rather sit on their brains then use them.

ml you have the answer for everything and fireworks down at Caste start at 9:45 to closer to 10 pm. There might of been a typo on here as Robert did change the time. But forgot your the expert on everything.

Margaret I agree with you there, some think they are entitled to pull in others yards and park if your not home and love your idea of super gluing a quarter to the street, that would crack me up watching people try to pick it up. We go down to Caste around 5 at night to eat and watch fireworks. My driveway will be the one full of cars and cars parked across the driveway and yard so that no one can drive in the yard to park. We don't take beer or drinks with us either as it is a family gathering and take 2 coolers of drinks (pop, ice tea and water), plus we take black garbage bags to pick up our trash. I told my daughter and her friends that they should take the box of black trash bags from home and walk around the parking lot and pass them out to the people that have litter all over the place.
Have you ever noticed that in Whitehall you don't find a lot of garbage around on the streets and yards but when you drive though Baldwin you see trash all over the place.

I can't wait to hear about the path either Friday night or Saturday morning.

"I guess if anyone is strongly bothered by the WOOD SMOKE being close to COMING INSIDE their home/PROPERTY LINE, they could make plans to be out somewhere else that night." ....OH, SHUT THEIR WINDOWS!!!! BE IMPRISONED IN THEIR OWN HOUSE!!!!

"Margaret I agree with you there, some think they are entitled to..." SMOKE UP THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THEIR FIRE PIT!!!!!

it is spelled chaos.

Hey, Denice, maybe you should just shut your windows and shut up, huh? The really popular people want what they want! If this bothers you it's your problem and nobody likes you anyhow! Or maybe you're just NUTS!

Seriously, that's NOT what I think at all, Denice. I'm truly sorry for what happened to your property. Some people can spell certain words, but when it comes to seeing things from another's perspective, well, gee! Their minds just don't work that way!

I hate wood smoke coming over to my house from neighbors' fire pits making me SICK! But the oh-so-popular neighbors who sit around the fire with all their friends in the backyard all spring, summer and fall think I am the problem here!

It has been several restaurants there before Armstrongs and there has always been fireworks, CC is correct in what he/she says.

Maybe you should get a lawyer and sue the all the Baldwin people who walk past your house.

Concerned someone said an awning caught fire because of the fireworks, The awning is 3 stories off the ground that she says she couldn't wet down. Mother nature wet down Denice awning for her last night, so it wouldn't catch fire.

Margaret that is too funny and would of sat with you and cracked up over that. I picked 2 tomatoes yesterday and my neighbor asked me if I could have one of them, said it would go perfect in her salad. I told her i'm selling them this year for 2.99 a lb, she got nasty with me and told me I was rude to try and sell her tomatoes that I have growing in my yard. I went and got seeds in the house and walked over to her house later that day and told her to plant these and maybe she would have tomatoes by the end of the summer, she slammed the door in my face.

Henry I was up on Churchview and Willet and the roads were terrible with garbage everywhere. It isn't nonsense when you see it everywhere. I never said we were Upper St Clair either. I know the Residence of South Hills has clean roads, and was shocked at all the garbage that is over the road over up by the Borough Building and along the streets there.

Henry that is so funny the city is creeping into Brentwood, it already hit in North Baldwin Borough. There are two apartment complexes over in North Baldwin that is now taking Section 8 and Whitehall Place and the Residence of South Hills quit taking Section 8

Margaret, I put in about 30 tomato plants, zucchinis, peppers, Italian Flat Green Beans, cucumbers and lettuce and give to all my neighbors as I grow to much and enjoy my garden and given away to people. If she was nice to me the other 350 days in the year, I would be more than happy to give her homegrown veggies, but she is nasty the rest of the time. Yells at the kids for making noise in the pool during the afternoon, calls the cops and says we are having wild pool parties and using the fire pit. That is nice that your daughter brought you fresh veggies, nothing like a beefsteak tomato sandwich on toast. My son is in Japan working and won't make it home for the 4th and my daughter in law and grandbaby's will be up on Sunday for a week. Were going to broadcast the fireworks to him on the computer Friday night from Caste Village. I got the laptop, video camera ready, all we have to do on Friday is connect into Skype. We plan on leaving Skype up from 6 pm so that he can talk to his friends when they stop by us down at Caste. Not the same as him being here but it is the best we can do.

Denice-those fireworks have always been the same for all the years I have lived here. I lived in Whitehall since 1962, the last 29 years here where I am now. Maybe it isn't those fireworks but the ones who set them off in neighbors afterwards.

Denice in 2009 and 2010 Zambelli did the firework show in Caste Village, in 2011 Pyrotechnico did them as they are doing them this year. Not sure why you think Armstrong has anything to do with the fireworks. It is who gives them the best bids. Every year fireworks gets better as they find new ways on how to make improvements on them. I don't know why you don't think these fireworks are for our benefit but if you ask anyone else they would tell you different.

Denice if you wet them down then they won't catch fire. If you have the fireworks on Video and them catching your awning on fire, you should of went down to the Magistrate John Bova and filed a complaint against the company that set them off. The Magistrate office would of given you a fair hearing and they would make the company pay if they are at fault. You didn't say what year your awning caught on fire. I would be taking a movie of them this year also in case it happens again.

Denice, since the fire trucks are there in front of you place, then you can ask the fire dept to put your awning out if it catches on fire and is smoldering when the fireworks are being shot off. Whitehall doesn't want to see anyone homes catching on fire when these fireworks are being put on for the people in Whitehall as a way of Caste Village saying thank you to the people that shop there and show their support. I don't remember every seeing a 3 story Cape Code up on Old Boston with a canvas awning up on the 3rd floor.

Sure do know who you mean and I am a female also. My trick to keep the deer out of my garden is to use a old pair of pantyhoses and stuff it with hair that I get from the beauty parlor (down at Caste Village), then I cut the legs off and tie a knot in the end of the pantyhose and tie one to each piece of pcv piping that I have in the 4 corners of my garden. Deer think humans are present when they smell the hair and don't come near my garden.

Denice shouldn't have to do anything to her awning. If it gets burnt from fireworks the company should be responsible for it. I would take before and after pictures. Also i'm sure all the shops in Caste profit from these fireworks or they wouldn't be there. Maybe someone from Baldwin is setting your awning on fire. I would have cc look into it.

concerned your an idiot, we suggest she wet her awning down, take before and after pictures, send certified letters to the company. but since she believes that the fireworks company and Armstrong restaurant is in it together to burn her awning on her home. It is the owners of Caste Village that put on the show for us every year and do a fantastic job also. Denice got her awning soaked last night by mother nature so they should of been ok.

Thanks for the update, Jeff!

Jo M, that is why I park my cars in my driveway and my family park in front of my home for firework night. I wouldn't leave a car on Baptist Road to begin with. We walk down to Caste Village with 2 coolers and do not have any beer in them either. Why don't you film everything your saying and then post it on youtube so you can get a million votes and then maybe Whitehall would do something about it. I have never heard of our cops even on firework night not responding to a accident where a drunk driver hit someones car. I have not read anything on here that anyone is ok for underage drinking either. Just think, Brentwood is going to be dealing with this mess next week.

Sounds like a typical night on the South Side.

South Side is scary at night, I picked friends up down there one night that were to drunk to drive and they called me. Never want to go there again at night.

Why haven't you guys deleted this person's comment? It is offensive that he or she uses our Lord's name in this way. Amazing how quickly comments are deleted or changed because they are about people on our school board that heaven forbid we might offend. This is offensive.

I agree with Judith S that the comment from Shawntonio mcjenkinson is very offensive. the people from baldwin over off churchview does the same things and we don't use GOD's name in vain

Judith, I'm gonna let this one slide.

We don't really care where you are from. If the shoe fits..... Some of the people we are talking about are from Baldwin and Whitehall.

See, Shawn, these here folks, they aksed their lawd about fire pits. They said, "Lawd, we got dis here nasty old lady, sick and miserable all de time and evryting. She nasty, Lawd!"

Then they aksed him, "Lawdy, WWJD?" And their lawd answered unto them, "Smoke 'em if ya got 'em!"

So they just KNEW that smokin' out that sick old lady that nobody on the street likes anyway was the will of their Lawd, Shawntonio!

See, these here folks done been SAVED! He protects their houses from fireworks, too, Shawn. Think about dat! And get right wit de lawd!

Pssst: Shawntonio! The proper spelling is "chrissakes!" These people around here even know how to spell "chaos" properly! They be real high class X-tians!

I was glad to go down and give them a ride but it is scary being in the South Side. I try to avoid that area at night. I hope that the Police were able to help the women that was yelling rape and running nude. I have heard their are a lot of rapes down in the South Side at night, but don't know if it is true or not. Margaret I carry all the time unless i'm going swimming. It is part of getting dressed every morning after I take my shower. My boss reads the Patch as he is from Whitehall too and I told him as much as he does. He was shocked when I told him that I known he was carrying for years.

Yep she is a nut case